Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
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Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
After repeated purchases, followed by unfortunate sales, I finally have the majority of the pieces needed to get this '86 Z28 project in nine second form, hopefully by the end of March. Got my hands on a complete TPI setup from an '86 F-Body, as well as a complete MegaSquirt ECM system. First things first is to pull the carb and convert the engine to fuel injection, and I'll be updating this thread w/pics along the way. Going to be retaining the worked 882 heads, mainly for the desired compression ratio, although they too will be pulled for some additional clean up work. To start of this thread, I'll be working on the TPI system itself. I already pulled out the vacuum ports found on the throttle body, and will be sealing them up with some epoxy. The other three vacuum ports found on the plenum will remain of course, but there will be plenty of port work to follow. For now, here is the basic setup....
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
I left off a few months back w/pulling out the entire AC setup, while making room for turbo charger. Here is a before and after w/the G20 delete box I eventually went with. All of the unnecessary wiring harness was removed, and those that were retained were shortened for a nice clean look. I'll have more recent pictures up tomorrow....


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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
.... this was just a baseline of what I am currently working with, Click Here, the car now employs an almost complete beige 4th gen interior, and is currently being prepped for Blue Metallic paint. Waiting on a set of 16" Iroc rims, which of course will be fitted with the right rubber;

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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
dude u finially got the megasquirt??? get that thing over here and we can have it up and running with the fuel injection in a few hours
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
Originally Posted by project89
dude u finially got the megasquirt??? get that thing over here and we can have it up and running with the fuel injection in a few hours....

Originally Posted by NemeSS-TyranT
what turbo?
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
cage kit is what 400 bucks, and for 300 ill weld it in for ya
lol why did u epoxy it? we could have welded the holes up
when u get the heads off let me redo the heads, ill cut them for 2.02/1.60 valves i have a set laying around u can drop in the heads
lol why did u epoxy it? we could have welded the holes up
when u get the heads off let me redo the heads, ill cut them for 2.02/1.60 valves i have a set laying around u can drop in the heads
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
Originally Posted by project89
cage kit is what 400 bucks, and for 300 ill weld it in for ya lol why did u epoxy it? we could have welded the holes up when u get the heads off let me redo the heads, ill cut them for 2.02/1.60 valves i have a set laying around u can drop in the heads....
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
u should ditch those bmr's for a fraction of the cost we could do threw the floor sfc's that will work better
u need those coolant ports. if u block them u cannot run a thermostat. they bypass coolant form one side of the thermo to the other when its closed
u need those coolant ports. if u block them u cannot run a thermostat. they bypass coolant form one side of the thermo to the other when its closed
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
Originally Posted by project89
u need those coolant ports. if u block them u cannot run a thermostat. they bypass coolant form one side of the thermo to the other when its closed....
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Man you sould like me. Get parts, change mind , get rid of em for different parts.
Ive got everything laying around to finish up my turbo motor except for the Turbo and a good waste gate.
Deff. post up some pic's when you start on your headers etc.
Im gonna stick with this kit I have right here and run a S400 if it will fit over there.
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/Car...%20pipes22.jpg
Ive got everything laying around to finish up my turbo motor except for the Turbo and a good waste gate.
Deff. post up some pic's when you start on your headers etc.
Im gonna stick with this kit I have right here and run a S400 if it will fit over there.
http://www.cecoatings.com/images/Car...%20pipes22.jpg
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
robs been on this turbo kick for like 3 years now.
i can personally count 3 v6 cars, 2 or 3 v8 cars,3 turbos.and 2 diff sets of turbo headers he's hand in his hands to build something lmfao
i can personally count 3 v6 cars, 2 or 3 v8 cars,3 turbos.and 2 diff sets of turbo headers he's hand in his hands to build something lmfao
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lol i keep telling him, buy the parts put it all in boxes, bring everything over to my shop on a friday,and by sunday he'll get back a turbo car.
lol maybe this time it will get finished,still thinking that v6 car he was gonna do the twins on would have been kick ***. but that 406 hes got now is prime for a turbo
lol maybe this time it will get finished,still thinking that v6 car he was gonna do the twins on would have been kick ***. but that 406 hes got now is prime for a turbo
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
that thing can run! or maybe I'm crazy, but I thought I saw 14.7 1/4 mile. tell me how you like that megasquirt. I'm going to do some more reading up on them.
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its way to small for the motor only a 600cfm carb and it ran that on the primarys only, the rear fuel bowl was bone dry due to a float that was stuck
the 406 with those ported heads should go into the 13's even with only 8-1 cr that the motor has
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
the 14.7 that his car ran was on the carb
its way to small for the motor only a 600cfm carb and it ran that on the primarys only, the rear fuel bowl was bone dry due to a float that was stuck
the 406 with those ported heads should go into the 13's even with only 8-1 cr that the motor has
its way to small for the motor only a 600cfm carb and it ran that on the primarys only, the rear fuel bowl was bone dry due to a float that was stuck
the 406 with those ported heads should go into the 13's even with only 8-1 cr that the motor has
Good luck on the fuel injection project.
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I can only imagine what this beast will sound like on boost. who's gonna have the faster car? dave or streetleathal?
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
I installed and tuned a megasquirt on a mild 305 TBI firebird(zz4 cam with 416 heads), it's a great system. The on the fly tuning is great, took me about 20min to get a pretty good fuel map with someone else driving, that was the first time I ever tuned any EFI. It ran a 14.5 at 94 with injectors going static at 4500.
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Originally Posted by TPl383
Man you sould like me. Get parts, change mind , get rid of em for different parts. Ive got everything laying around to finish up my turbo motor except for the Turbo and a good waste gate. Deff. post up some pic's when you start on your headers etc. Im gonna stick with this kit I have right here and run a S400 if it will fit over there....
Originally Posted by project89
the 14.7 that his car ran was on the carb its way to small for the motor only a 600cfm carb and it ran that on the primarys only, the rear fuel bowl was bone dry due to a float that was stuck the 406 with those ported heads should go into the 13's even with only 8-1 cr that the motor has

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I can only imagine what this beast will sound like on boost....
Originally Posted by chevyracingrox
who's gonna have the faster car? dave or streetleathal?
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
Originally Posted by project89
lol maybe this time it will get finished, still thinking that v6 car he was gonna do the twins on would have been kick ***. but that 406 hes got now is prime for a turbo....

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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
I installed and tuned a megasquirt on a mild 305 TBI firebird(zz4 cam with 416 heads), it's a great system. The on the fly tuning is great, took me about 20min to get a pretty good fuel map with someone else driving, that was the first time I ever tuned any EFI. It ran a 14.5 at 94 with injectors going static at 4500.
then we had the car up and running n/a in 20-30 mins.
was also my first install and tunning attempt at efi
megasquirt just works lol
lol i might have to change his wastegate spring to a 3 psi spring or losen one of his coupler clamps when hes not looking.cause i know were gonned end up running each other down the track
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Hmmmm those turbos look really familiar. I am glad you are getting back into the turbo project. You will not be disappointed. I am absolutley hooked now.
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^ Very nice, the engine bay looks awesome....
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
Originally Posted by project89
lol i might have to change his wastegate spring to a 3 psi spring....

Dave, you wanna take a ride to the shop tomorrow? I want to modify the fuel rail a little, as I'm planning to plumb it on the opposite side. I'm going to use the cold start injector area as the supply line, and cut the return right by the regulator and re-route to follow along side of it. You'll just have to weld the front of the passenger side fuel rail shut. Here's the concept....;

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yeah thats nto a problem but u know we can tap and drill that thing anywere u want the fuel inlet and outlet. might be better off waiting till its on the car to do it
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
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....might be better off waiting till its on the car to do it
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
You could do something like this..
my server is down right now. But I have pic's of a tpi rail modified like your talking about also.
my server is down right now. But I have pic's of a tpi rail modified like your talking about also.
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flare tool for what standard fittings or a flare tool for doing an lines?
well it dont matter lol i have both
well it dont matter lol i have both
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You could do something like this. my server is down right now. But I have pic's of a tpi rail modified like your talking about also.
Originally Posted by project89
flare tool for what standard fittings or a flare tool for doing an lines? well it dont matter lol i have both....
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im not sure on the tpi rail,u still want to head over to the shopp today??
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Yeah, I'll take a ride. Just waiting for the damn snow to clear up first lol....
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dude its liek 1/2 inch of snow rofl.
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dude its liek 1/2 inch of snow rofl....

I'll call you in a few minutes....
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bah at slip and slide, its called drift practice lmfao
lol throw some cinder blocks in the trunk and it will be all good
lol throw some cinder blocks in the trunk and it will be all good
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Re: Project: "Street Lethal", Let's Try This Again....
The fuel rail is almost done. In the first picture, you can see where Dave welded the fuel inlet in the front of the rail completely shut. The new location will be on the back where the cold start injector line was plumbed. Also, I didn't trust the return line coming from the regulator, a little too loose for my taste. Tomorrow I'm going to tap the hole and put in the proper fitting. Don't mind the pics, the weld will be smoothed, and the rail will be polished...; 


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Thanks Chris, that's exactly what I'm looking to do. How is that regulator w/boost....?



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Thanks Chris, that's exactly what I'm looking to do. How is that regulator w/boost....?
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