atleast u can get an air filter on urs , theres no room in my driver side turbo for a filter

 

There is a way, get a radiator with the upper port on the passenger side this way you can run the intake tubing lower to clear the turbo orifice. With mine, I am going to run a 4" tube at 60 degrees and run it right through the removed vapor canister's tray to grab cold air, the K&N filter will be hidden. Might get a little radical myself with the drivers side because I really don't want to relocate the battery...

 

i dont have to swap the inlet on the radiator i can go under it with the charge pipe to make room , problem is i need a funky bend at the tb to do that , and my welder wont weld aluminum pipe

if i can find 2 shallow 90* sillicon couplers it may work , all the ones i find though are to long

 

Just use exhaust tubing and weld it the way you want it, then polish it. The weight won't be detrimental. I too am consdiering 4" oval exhaust tubing for the drivers side because I can't find any oval aluminum tubing, not to mention I don't have access to a tig welder to do it myself. The couplers you need should be easy to find. Throw up a rendition to paint a clearer picture for eveyone...

 

just a 90* striaght down , and then 90* to driver side to clear everything , problem is most couplers give me a 6-7 inch drop , i need a 4.5 inch drop total

 

You mean a 6-7" drop including the tubing, right? Because the coupler itself is 5.5" total, and can be trimmed to even less...

 

That's exactly where my filer is except I have no turo ... Like so ! ... IAT temps indicate it works quite well.... M eventually going to fab a small "scoop" that sticks out under the car an inch or two just to make it a high pressure area

 

centerline of tb to centerline of pipe

 

Nice, that is exactly what I'll be doing as well...

 

looking good

 

If your thinking to get radical with the piping and have multiple bend you may want to think about carbon fiber sleeves. Get some copper tubing and bend it to the shapes you desire around what ever. Then use roll bar padding in the diameter you want the pipe to be, wrap the copper tube with it then tape it up with masking tape. next wax it and slide the carbon fiber sleeve over it. stretch it out tightly the wet it with epoxy resin, once it had cured slide the copper tube then the padding and you'll have a custom pipe that fits your application.

 

How's it going?!

 

Exhaust is done, intake is still being fabricated (rerouted) because of the battery relocation issue, larger injectors are in, 3-Bar MAP was just put in replacing the 2-Bar MAP I was using, although right now 15-psi is the most I will be tuning with for the time being until I give it a bonzai blast at the track. With the intake hooked up to the throttle body the turbo spools instantaneously, puts an enormous smile on my face. No blow off valve yet, don't think I will even run one to tell you the truth...

 

Is it done yet?

 

What up bro. Yeah, she's pretty much done, but so is the weather lately. Been messing around with the vette these last few weeks and didn't show/give the GTA any love, but she is essentially done. I have the battery relocation kit, that was last on the list, and it is partially installed. Way too cold to even go near it lately. I liked your intake so much that I went with a 4" aluminum intake off the throttle body, and had my buddy use his press to make it oval on the throttle body side. Came out perfect. The T-Clamp on the intake side is still loose in the pic below, but you pretty much get the idea. Only other thing to do is the alky system. I wanna get our cars together one night, hit me up when your free Dave...

 

its come a long way since I checked in a few months ago. But your right the weather is brutal here in jersey! being that my camaro is my daily driver its been especially terrible. I think we should all meet up at English town this spring. Like everyone in the area if its possible. I'm getting a truck in the near future so I'm excited to bring the camaro to the strip and not worry about breaking it. I've got a nitrous kit I want to install too! haha, maybe then it wouldnt be to much of an embarrassing race against you. good luck finishing it up!

 

Oh definitely, that is an excellent idea. I know Dave (two posts above yours) will be down with his turbo 305 Iroc-Z, just gotta get a few others in on it too. My buddy Shawn just got a sweet '89 TTA that he is building, hopefully he still has it by Spring. I am all about putting up or shutting up which is why I won't speculate with the GTA, when I have hardcore data, or video from a gathering such as one that we'll definitely put together, I will post it all up. I think your build is fantastic, nitrous is no joke, can't wait to see that thing haul @ss down the track. How are you liking the carb setup...?

- Rob

 

Suspension...

So far the only thing done were those lower control arms that I posted a picture of a few pages back. I am going to finish the battery relocation install next as the weather has taken a drastic turn for the better believe it or not, and then I will push towards a new suspension; SFC's, panhard, shocks, springs, etc. Also, was very impressed with how Pablo set up his old 3rd gen Camaro, he mini-tubbed it. I will be doing that very thing next month and will be running nothing smaller than 335 drag radial's out back. Just need to have my 17 by 9.5 TT2's stretched out a tad in the rear. Will definitely have that part done before raceway park opens up in March. Will try to have another idle video up soon with the intake/Intercooler hooked up, as well as a street run, as the engine sounds unreal, yet still remains very docile considering the size of the camshaft I went with...

 

Battery relocation is pretty much done, just going over some of the wiring as well as hiding everything so you can't see the work. Last two things to go are the alky system and air filter. I had a 4" K&N Filter on there which looks good, really compliments the engine bay, but I'd like to build a custom air box to seal off the incoming air from the engine bay. Gonna try some different idea's during the next month or so during Winter, and the end result should come out very sweet when all is said and done. A lot of you guys are really stepping up the builds, I see some major progress across the board. Get'em done fella's, get'em done...

 

rob u still have those shifters ? will they work with a 3 speed?

 

If it's not in my garage I am pretty sure it's sitting in Paul's garage, I gave him a lot of stuff that I wasn't using anymore. I'm actually headed there the end of this week, if its not in my garage I'll see if its over there...

 

thanks let me know , lots have changed with my setup , 355 aluminum heads 200cc runners 64cc chambers( dart pro 1 platnium s basically) , sum 224 cam with a split set of roller rockers 1.5/1.6 ,pair of gt35r's, and i ditched the tpi and bought an hsr to go with the new heads , need to ditch the 4 speed for a good 3 speed unit now

 

Ahhh you dog, going Holley Stealth Ram ehh? Sounds like a killer setup. Yeah, the guys here have me considering a three speed too, as first gear with boost and stall in a 700R4 isn't too desirable with the GN guys, especially with 3.42's out back...

 

yup would be a waste to slide good heads under a tpi intake , if i keep the tpi i may as well keep stock heads on it

heads and hsr are ordered i should see them by 7th of january

 

Your worried way too much about flow, but I don't want to turn this build thread into that type of debate, as we'll all post our numbers on here sooner or later and that will have the final say. Caught the latest episode of Street idiots, I mean Street Outlaws last night... that dude Monza sounds exactly like you, voice wise. Had it playing in the garage while I was fiddling with the vette, and I had to take a second and third look to make sure it wasn't you lol.

 

that show is such bullshit, i hate every minute of it, but i keep watching it? o.0

 

Haha, agreed. Have no idea why I watch it either, although that dude they call Asian makes me laugh. Gotta love listening to those idiots arguing about cubic inches, while overpowering the street and looking ridiculous. They never race anyone worthwhile, not that I have seen that is. Would love any one of them to go up against a real car, one with half the cubic inch displacement, with two less cylinders, and one that doesn't need to be hauled in. A real street car...

 

not really im just not willing to spend money on the tpi for a base and high flow runners, not to metion dealing with its 5k rpm wall


the new heads flow more at .300 then my old heads at .550 , and thats out of the box

setup at about 9.5-1 cr witht he 224 cam the thing should make 380-400 hp n/a , witht he tpi on it i bet it would be down about 60 hp from that

works out great for me , more power off boost , and alot more power on boost

 

This Winter has been brutal since my last post, this is how my area has been. Everytime it looked to be clearing up a little, boom, we'd get hit with snow again, and I mean a lot. Supposed to "finally" be clearing up this week, as temps are calling for mid 50's by the end of the week. GTA is sitting in the garage waiting, the vette has been buried for weeks...

 

Agreed .. its comical though ... none of those cars are street cars and if our prepping ur lane that's not street racing ...my dad street raced for several years in the early 90's and nobody could touch him for 2 years then they started pulling the trailer queens a couple blocks a way and unloading them when my dad was driving 50+ miles one way and did nothing but swap tires when he got there ... back then it was a consistent low 11 second car ( 67' gto w/L88 427 BBC all motor) now its a high 9's low 10's car ... still all motor .... so how's the little 305 coming along Man? My NA 305 build is finished ! ... just trying to get the tuned nailed down .. but according to how much fuel I'm using it should b in the 350-375hp range !

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Awesome. I am proud of you for monitoring your O2's, and estimating horsepower based on fuel consumption, as most don't realize that that is the proper way of seeing where we are in terms of power. Mine is ready to go, just need to change the regulator that I modified, as pressure drops the moment the key is switched to off. Thought it may have been clogged injectors, but its the regulator for sure. Already ordered an adjustable one for eighty bucks. By the way, there is no way you can share that information with us and not give us any videos, and I know you got a few of them at idle because I watched one. Throw some up when you get the chance. Other than that, tis been boring on the racing front, gotten so desperate just to "work" on a vehicle I've been considering slapping a turbo on the Trail Blazer in the pic above. Was going to ask RBob if the SFI-6 would work with it, then just put a decent size turbo on it and have some fun in the snow. Thank Gawd the weather is clearing up to stop me from doing that, though lol...

 

By the way, there is no way you can share that information with us and not give us any videos, and I know you got a few of them at idle because I watched one.

Lol ... I have 2-3 videos up of idle and free revving .. but that's about it .. I also have a few datalogs up of me driving on the tuning with ebl thread .. it runs fairly decent drivability is good .. but it starts sputtering around 4500 .. I'm kinds new to the whole tuning thing been trying to get some help here with it but I'm working 6-12's right now so ain't got much time for anything ... but I will b driving it to work soon temps gonna b up in the 60-70's over the next week ... so I'll try to get a video up next time I drive it to work .. I think its also gonna get a little 100 shot very soon :-o and prolly a bigger cam and some long tubes in the near future. . I think them little 1.5" primaries are holding it back a little

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I'll try to get a video up tomorrow of some driving ! I'm off all day n its gonna b nice out .... it won't b nothing special seeing as the tune is still way off but it will give an idea anyway ... check my thread tomorrow afternoon ! And if anyone can help with my tune that would b great ! Like I said I got datalogs posted on tuning with ebl thread if anyone could take a peek !

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I got a short driving clip up on my YouTube page man. . Tuning is still off pretty bad .. also note the speedo is about 15-20 mph off lol so that run was up to about 95-105mph or so lol...

Edit video is on my build thread now

91' firebird .. 305 TBI .030 over , balanced bottom end , speed pro hyper flattops , 10.6:1 CR , all ARP rod bolts and main studs , melling HV oil pump , trick flow super 23 175cc heads, Howards HR 214/218@.050 .488/.495 lift on 114 LSA , full roller 1.6 RR = .520/.528 lift , summit dual plane intake port matched , shorty headers into 2.5" Y w full 3" flow master system and 3" cutout in front of axle , msd billet dizzy, 620cfm TBI , custom CAI , tubular adjustabke LCA pan hard , umi torque arm wonder bar , BMR trans cross member , COMP engineering SFC's, disc rear w 4.10's, drilled an slotted rotors, EBL flash , VRFPR, WBO2,

 

Just checked out your video, and I'm loving the way that 305 sounds. She pulls real good, and I am really looking forward to seeing some track results soon...

As for the tracks around my area, Atco Raceway officially opens today, but there is still lots of snow in the streets, with more coming this Tuesday and Wednesday. We got teased yesterday with temps reaching mid 50's, and that helped with some of the snow melting, and hopefully today we get similar temps too. Old Bridge Raceway Park kicks off there opening on March 2nd for drag racing, and has Street Wars / Import vs Domestic coming up on March 9th which I'd love to be apart of. Those Evo/STI's are no joke though, as some of them finally caught on to us and are running stalled automatics with their boosted 4 bangers.

 

Thanks Man.... I kinda wish I would a went with a 112 LSA with same specs ...but if I spray it the 114 should do well ! I'm thinking a little 100 shot should put it deep into the 7's in 1/8 but it definitely sounds good after 4k lol tune is getting much closer too .. need to work on pe and de next and do a couple blm learns it seems like it needs way too much fuel under 2k on Decel ...and our tracks should b opening in about a month BTW

91' firebird .. 305 TBI .030 over , balanced bottom end , speed pro hyper flattops , 10.6:1 CR , all ARP rod bolts and main studs , melling HV oil pump , trick flow super 23 175cc heads, Howards HR 214/218@.050 .488/.495 lift on 114 LSA , full roller 1.6 RR = .520/.528 lift , summit dual plane intake port matched , shorty headers into 2.5" Y w full 3" flow master system and 3" cutout in front of axle , msd billet dizzy, 620cfm TBI , custom CAI , tubular adjustabke LCA pan hard , umi torque arm wonder bar , BMR trans cross member , COMP engineering SFC's, disc rear w 4.10's, drilled an slotted rotors, EBL flash , VRFPR, WBO2,

 

Lemme know if your still looking for another intake manifold, because I also read how you were considering the single plane Stealth Ram for your setup. I have a Holley Projection TBI manifold that I heavily modified, and fully ported, that is just sitting in the garage. Was going to use it for a blow-thru project down the road, but you can always throw a TBI adapter on it and run it. I lowered the divider, so it went from a TBI dual plane design, to a carb style single/dual plane, also has EGR functionality and/or block off plate...

 

What u want for it ?

91' firebird .. 305 TBI .030 over , balanced bottom end , speed pro hyper flattops , 10.6:1 CR , all ARP rod bolts and main studs , melling HV oil pump , trick flow super 23 175cc heads, Howards HR 214/218@.050 .488/.495 lift on 114 LSA , full roller 1.6 RR = .520/.528 lift , summit dual plane intake port matched , shorty headers into 2.5" Y w full 3" flow master system and 3" cutout in front of axle , msd billet dizzy, 620cfm TBI , custom CAI , tubular adjustabke LCA pan hard , umi torque arm wonder bar , BMR trans cross member , COMP engineering SFC's, disc rear w 4.10's, drilled an slotted rotors, EBL flash , VRFPR, WBO2,

 

For a fellow third genner? Fifty bucks....

Comes w/chrome waterneck and blockoff plate, just PM me your zip if you want it...

 

How about a fellow 305er lol ... I'll get ahold of u Wednesday (payday) and if u could measure the ports where it meets the heads let me k ow the port sizes

35674 zip

91' firebird .. 305 TBI .030 over , balanced bottom end , speed pro hyper flattops , 10.6:1 CR , all ARP rod bolts and main studs , melling HV oil pump , trick flow super 23 175cc heads, Howards HR 214/218@.050 .488/.495 lift on 114 LSA , full roller 1.6 RR = .520/.528 lift , summit dual plane intake port matched , shorty headers into 2.5" Y w full 3" flow master system and 3" cutout in front of axle , msd billet dizzy, 620cfm TBI , custom CAI , tubular adjustabke LCA pan hard , umi torque arm wonder bar , BMR trans cross member , COMP engineering SFC's, disc rear w 4.10's, drilled an slotted rotors, EBL flash , VRFPR, WBO2,

 

You got it, I'll measure and send you a pic later on in PM. I will also throw in a Mr. Gasket carb spacer for a fellow 305'er. This is the only other pic I can find that I still have of it. The only thing I don't have are those studs and nuts on the flange, but being you'd be running an adapter, they'd be too short anyway. Everything else in the pic goes with it...

 

Note the coolant temp sensor (for the gauge) next to the chrome waterneck still on the manifold, I did this to relocate that sensor from the cylinder head to keep the wires away from the turbo headers, you would just rerun the factory wire alongside of, or in, the black TBI harness protector...

 

Just an update;

The weather is still essentially bad, calling for one to two feet of snow this coming Sunday, and the temps have been averaging 15 degrees this whole week. Racing activities for both Old Bridge Raceway Park & Atco Raceway have been delayed due to the weather. Had the car out just to get some heat in the engine and to stretch its' legs a little, but its pretty much useless because I just blow the tires away. One of the worst winters we've had here, not so much for setting snow records, but just an averaging of the snow, it just won't go away...

 

Meh, the whole state was bracing for two feet of snow, and we got hit with only one to two inches... gotta love that fear mongering media. Anyways, having off this week, I thought I'd attack the front nose bumper because I have been testing and tuning without it. I cut the structure behind the bumper to allow for the amount of air that I need/want towards the intercooler, I just need to stiffen it in a few areas. It is hard to see in the pic, but I kept the lower part of that piece in the center to allow for the nose to fasten to it underneath, and that is one of the areas I need to stiffen with some brackets. Air bag sensor is still in place, everything is essentially there and ready to go. The nose has already been cut a few pages ago, but I actually made the rectangle a tad longer, looks much better now. Once I finalize the additional bracing to stiffen up the front, I'll have the nose bumper back on. Power steering line bolts to the bottom of the intercooler like stock...

 

Basically what I am after is I am going to build a rectangular "bracing" and weld it into the steel impact behind the nose bumper where I made my cutout on it in the picture above, its just going to be the size of the intercooler, but welded to the stock piece. This will strengthen that piece, while also providing an area to mount brackets for other things like the hood lock, and it will direct airflow right to the intercooler itself because I am going to extend the front of it right out to the rectangular cut on the nose bumper...

 

One of our members was asking me how I ran the piping for the larger 4" core intercooler, and wanted to know why I didn't run the inlet/outlet up top. Main reason is, the bends won't clear the TA headlights, as the headlight motors are in the way, and the IC is too wide. So I ran it down and around, then up through the charcoal canister/battery locations, but of course the canister is now gone, and the battery has been relocated. Pulled the nose off so I can show you. Not that crazy about the sharp degree from the turbo's 2 1/2" outlet to the 3" tube, as it is a sharp turn, but we'll see if it is detrimental when she's at the track to throw down some runs. The EBL-P4 has the engine running so awesome with this large of a cam, I'm loving it. Note the wiring harness on top of the coolant reservoir, as that is getting cut, lengthened with some weather resistant connectors soldered in, and tucked away/hidden...

 

Racing back from Atlantic City as I write this, was told a few minutes ago that the lines are literally a mile long already lol. Didn't even know it was happening today, as we all thought it was postponed until next month in April....

 

So what are the can specs on this beastly 305 lol

91' firebird .. 305 TBI .030 over , balanced bottom end , speed pro hyper flattops , 10.6:1 CR , all ARP rod bolts and main studs , melling HV oil pump , trick flow super 23 175cc heads, Howards HR 214/218@.050 .488/.495 lift on 114 LSA , full roller 1.6 RR = .520/.528 lift , summit dual plane intake port matched , shorty headers into 2.5" Y w full 3" flow master system and 3" cutout in front of axle , msd billet dizzy, 620cfm TBI , custom CAI , tubular adjustabke LCA pan hard , umi torque arm wonder bar , BMR trans cross member , COMP engineering SFC's, disc rear w 4.10's, drilled an slotted rotors, EBL flash , VRFPR, WBO2,

 

First page of the build, low 230's duration, tad over .500" lift, 110-LSA...

 

Any track times yet ? Or guestimates ?

Edit; I'll prolly get that intake off u in a couple weeks .. got laid off back Wrekin now ! .. if u get a chance measure the runners for me ... thanks .... how do u think this intake would compare yo the summit stage 1 I got now ?

91' bird 305 TBI T-5, trick flow heads, 4.10 gears, full UMI setup, track times coming soon!