TT 406 build
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TT 406 build
so i was donated a sbc 400 its already been bored and everything on it checks out , so im going to build it, its already got a set of dished forged pistons in it.
but im going to have to see what the cr with the 74 cc heads will be before i descide if ill use them
its a 2 bolt 400
going with a comp xe268 , twin gt3582's, procomp 210 cc 74cc chamber cnc heads , unfortunatly for now im going to drop the tpi on it
and im just going to transfer the rest of the turbo system over from my current 355
anywas i have to get back to work but ill get some pictures posted up later tongiht and more as i start assembly
but im going to have to see what the cr with the 74 cc heads will be before i descide if ill use them
its a 2 bolt 400
going with a comp xe268 , twin gt3582's, procomp 210 cc 74cc chamber cnc heads , unfortunatly for now im going to drop the tpi on it
and im just going to transfer the rest of the turbo system over from my current 355
anywas i have to get back to work but ill get some pictures posted up later tongiht and more as i start assembly
Re: TT 406 build
If you have a .040 deck+gasket thickness and 28cc dish you'd end up at 8.5:1 or so with those slugs, 9:1 with a 21cc dish, 9.5 with a 15cc dish. Summit has a 36cc dish but I'd be totally amazed if you had em. Here's to hoping for a fairly big dish.
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Re: TT 406 build
id be really happy is they are a 21cc , i like to shoot around 9.0-1 to 9.5-1 for my turbo builds
at my altitude i could safley run a 10.5-1 cr with boost on pump gas, but the minute i drive down to aroud sealevel to 3k ft above id prolly run into issues
im at 6,500ft above seal level
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Re: TT 406 build
alright my friend just called me back as he got the pistions dishes poured and they are 15cc dishes
so with 0 deck , and a .040 gasket were sitting at 9.46-1
the engine is also only .020 over so only 404.5ci lol not a big deal , just glad the pistons will work as the selection for a decent .020 over piston isnt good
he did mention piston to wall clearance is a lil tighter then id like but im hoping when we hone it we can open it up just a tad
block needs a hot tanking for sure so hopefully ill get that dropped off this week if i can find a shop around me thats reasonably priced
so with 0 deck , and a .040 gasket were sitting at 9.46-1
the engine is also only .020 over so only 404.5ci lol not a big deal , just glad the pistons will work as the selection for a decent .020 over piston isnt good
he did mention piston to wall clearance is a lil tighter then id like but im hoping when we hone it we can open it up just a tad
block needs a hot tanking for sure so hopefully ill get that dropped off this week if i can find a shop around me thats reasonably priced
Re: TT 406 build
Nice, sounds like you're in really great shape actually. Should be a beast I'll be curious to see what the PC heads do. Then again I would think the people who actually do the final machine work on them make a lot of difference short of something like porosity, inadequate material in key places or core shift.
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Nice, sounds like you're in really great shape actually. Should be a beast I'll be curious to see what the PC heads do. Then again I would think the people who actually do the final machine work on them make a lot of difference short of something like porosity, inadequate material in key places or core shift.
place i got them from buys the bare/raw castings and finishes them.
i will be checking valve train gemoetry and pushrod lenght carfully when i assemble them.from what ive been told i will need adjustable push rod guide plates as well
if i have to stick my tpi on it i expect the tpi is going to bottle neck the entire thing, might have it sold to replace it with single plane efi and 4 bbl tb
Re: TT 406 build
thats whats generally said about them this will be my first time using them.
place i got them from buys the bare/raw castings and finishes them.
i will be checking valve train gemoetry and pushrod lenght carfully when i assemble them.from what ive been told i will need adjustable push rod guide plates as well
if i have to stick my tpi on it i expect the tpi is going to bottle neck the entire thing, might have it sold to replace it with single plane efi and 4 bbl tb
place i got them from buys the bare/raw castings and finishes them.
i will be checking valve train gemoetry and pushrod lenght carfully when i assemble them.from what ive been told i will need adjustable push rod guide plates as well
if i have to stick my tpi on it i expect the tpi is going to bottle neck the entire thing, might have it sold to replace it with single plane efi and 4 bbl tb
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Re: TT 406 build
lol if u picked one up for 50 bucks u got a deal and half
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Re: TT 406 build
ive been seeing some sbc efi single planes on ebay w rails for good prices. can use a 90elbow and a ebay ls 90mm throttle body. i have on my fast intake and it was like 175$ shipped new. have used a total of 3 and all of them have worked well.
i just made an elbow from 3.5 aluminum tube. and 3/8 plate 6061 for the 4150 flange and tb flange. made the flanges on a drill press. from scrap plate i had. came out real nice.
if u can weld aluminum. u can save a few bucks there.
can prolly even make out of mild steel w 1/4 steel plate for the flanges. easier to weld also.
i just made an elbow from 3.5 aluminum tube. and 3/8 plate 6061 for the 4150 flange and tb flange. made the flanges on a drill press. from scrap plate i had. came out real nice.
if u can weld aluminum. u can save a few bucks there.
can prolly even make out of mild steel w 1/4 steel plate for the flanges. easier to weld also.
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Re: TT 406 build
ive been seeing some sbc efi single planes on ebay w rails for good prices. can use a 90elbow and a ebay ls 90mm throttle body. i have on my fast intake and it was like 175$ shipped new. have used a total of 3 and all of them have worked well.
i just made an elbow from 3.5 aluminum tube. and 3/8 plate 6061 for the 4150 flange and tb flange. made the flanges on a drill press. from scrap plate i had. came out real nice.
if u can weld aluminum. u can save a few bucks there.
can prolly even make out of mild steel w 1/4 steel plate for the flanges. easier to weld also.
i just made an elbow from 3.5 aluminum tube. and 3/8 plate 6061 for the 4150 flange and tb flange. made the flanges on a drill press. from scrap plate i had. came out real nice.
if u can weld aluminum. u can save a few bucks there.
can prolly even make out of mild steel w 1/4 steel plate for the flanges. easier to weld also.
thats what i thought about doing but it seems the 4bbl tb has better air distribution then using an elbow and ls or other tb
the ebay efi intake is prolly what im going to go with , u can get one with rails for around 179$'s
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yea. the 4bbl tb are real good. shouldnt b hard at all to run the throttle cable. very similar to a carb cable. and can use a ev carb hat. all the hi hp blo thru guys use it with good results. but turbonetics used to sell a carb hat designed for blo thru turbo engines.
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My pile of cheap junk lol
Hmm pics won't upload from my iphone. Have to upload from a computer
Hmm pics won't upload from my iphone. Have to upload from a computer
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Re: TT 406 build
here we go
edit i dont know whats going on with the attachments so ill upload to pb

edit i dont know whats going on with the attachments so ill upload to pb

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Re: TT 406 build
ive decided not to use the 406 in the iroc , i dont think i can trust the factory block enough for the power its going to make, maybe ill just use the 406 longblock in my truck and drop the tpi on it.
but on the other hand the 350 in the truck already gets horrible gas mileage ( 6-8mpg in town) so im not sure how much worse the 406 would make it
but on the other hand the 350 in the truck already gets horrible gas mileage ( 6-8mpg in town) so im not sure how much worse the 406 would make it
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