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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 05:11 PM
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Break Line HELL

wow.....

as I'm typing this I'm about to go through a nervous breakdown.

Yesterday my friend and I were driving, and all the sudden my breaks went right down to the floor. Luckily, nothing was hurt. I pulled into a parking lot and left it there overnight. Today, I took off the front passanger wheel and discovered that my break line had a hole in it. So I went to autozone, and he gave me a new line. I went to put it on and the end that hooks to the steel hose broke off while loosening. The steel hose, at this point, has nothing attached and is just sitting there under my wheelwell. While panicing, I went back to autozone and the guy helpfully told me that I cut off the end of the steel hose, and connect it to the new brake line. He gave me this little tiny gold threaded screw/connector thing. So I went back, did what he said by sliding the connector over the open-ended steel hose, and connecting it to the new brake line. and after 3 hours of swearing kicking and all that, and I had my friend pump the breaks.....break fluid leaked everywhere at the spot that I have the connector. I almost went crazy, seeing as I was outside in freezing weather for 4 hours fixing this. What are my options now? Any idea's? thanks
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 06:08 PM
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Well honestly the safest thing to do is replace the hard line. It isn't very long. Just make sure you bleed the master cyl. and the calipers. I wouldn't mess with rigging your brakes. You could end up killing yourself or others on the road.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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ummmm......did you flare the steel line?

dont talk to people from autozone....just slap them
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 10:22 PM
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hey thanks guys

383....he gave me a tool that you put in the middle of the hole to expand it to make a 'mushroom' of the end of the metal hose. is this what you mean by flare? sorry I'm a newbie.

Where could I get a new hard line? And how would I go about slapping this on there? Thanks
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 10:46 PM
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flare and mushroom same thing.
You can try your local autozone dealer or try classic industry.
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Old Nov 29, 2003 | 11:42 PM
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What I'm worried about is how long of steel line I need......and how I'd bend it... also any connectors I need to put it back to stock?
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 12:04 AM
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flaring the hard line on my 91 Z was EXTREMELY difficult. It's a 6mm steel line, which looks to be extra thick (of course!). I'm guessing he gave you a double flare kit - you _really_ have to crank that flare tool down! We had you use a deep socket over the tools handle with an extension attached to it to get it turned enough to use a coupler (the gold thing). Even then, getting the flare centered properly was NASTY!

Good luck - please do it right and be safe! Do _not_ let the autozone guy offer you compression fittings...
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 12:51 AM
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its just tough to do if you've never done it before.....and if you dont get the flare nice and smooth and large enough it will leak no matter what you do......somtimes you have to chop the piece of the end and flare it again
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 05:59 AM
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if it is a 91 like his sig says that should be an ISO or (bubble) flare.
double flare will not work.my 88 had the metric flare(ISO).
just a thought
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 08:34 AM
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your splicing a union into the line to repair a section thats missing, you can use a standard flare on both ends which is easier to make....as long as you use the correct fittings with it
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 04:59 PM
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Just replace the hard line. I was under the impression that they sold prebent lines with fittings already installed on them. I've installed them before. If not then here's a quick link that will explain how to double flare the ends. (*I was too lazy to write ).

How to flare brake line

Don't forget to bleed the master cyl. I'll explain if needed.
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 06:51 PM
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Originally posted by 383backinblack
dont talk to people from autozone....just slap them
lol, prolly the best piece of advice ive heard on the board
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Old Nov 30, 2003 | 07:05 PM
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lol, prolly the best piece of advice ive heard on the board
lol well ya just gotta keep it real.....my favorite auto zone incident is trying to buy wheel studs.

i was like "i need 10 1/2" 20 threaded wheel studs 3-1/2" long"

auto zone honda kid reply - "what year is it?"

no, it doesnt work like that
just give me that size wheel stud

auto zone: "i cant look them up if i dont know what kind of car it is"

I know where they are in the back, want me to show you?
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