Installing LCA's...how much to pay?
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If you are getting the LCA installed, you may want to consider installing SFC at the same time. In order to install the SFC's, you will have to remove the LCA (at the front) to install them. I had Kenny Brown SFC installed and Grannetilli LCA installed at the same time. They didn't charge me anything to install the LCA since they had to remove the front part already. However, I didn't have the relocation bracket installed.
chunster i've seen two or three SFCs on thirdgens and never seen any that required removing anything except maybe the exhaust. sure would like to see how they fit that makes them need the control arm to be removed.
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Alstons don't require you to remove any part of the LCAs, FYI.
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From: Monroe,NC
Car: 90 Formula
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Axle/Gears: 9 bolt/3.27
Local shop charged me $20 to weld up the LCA relocater brackets. Installing the LCAs I did myself as it isn't difficult at all.
I already have Spohn Sub frame connectors and a Kenny Brown Strut tower brace already installed on the car......
So if 2 is excessive is $125-$175 reasonable?
So if 2 is excessive is $125-$175 reasonable?
Last edited by FLYNLOW92rs; Jun 3, 2004 at 05:36 PM.
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do it yourself. i have the bmr bolt in lca relocators and the bmr xtreme adjustable lca's. Get the bolt in ones and then if you want have them welded in , but they are fine the way they are. I love em and they fit perfect and are great .
So if 2 is excessive is $125-$175 reasonable?
figure 2 hours labor, divide the rate by two and you get their per hour rate. guess it depends what shops in your area charge but 60 a hour is getting a bit excessive to me, but then again i'd weld them myself
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figure 2 hours labor, divide the rate by two and you get their per hour rate. guess it depends what shops in your area charge but 60 a hour is getting a bit excessive to me, but then again i'd weld them myself
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Car: 1987 1SICIROC.....1999 TransAm
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Transmission: 700R4 with Midwest 3400 2.4str...M6
Axle/Gears: SLP Zexel Posi unit 3.42's...3.73's
Why are you going to pay someone to do it? its only like 4 bolts.
I know you probably got money to burn but wouldnt it be nice to do some of the work yourself?
Actually only like 8 bolts total if you get the BMR bolt-on relocation brakets.
I know you probably got money to burn but wouldnt it be nice to do some of the work yourself?
Actually only like 8 bolts total if you get the BMR bolt-on relocation brakets.
Originally posted by Wishmaster's87IROC
Why are you going to pay someone to do it? its only like 4 bolts.
I know you probably got money to burn but wouldnt it be nice to do some of the work yourself?
Why are you going to pay someone to do it? its only like 4 bolts.
I know you probably got money to burn but wouldnt it be nice to do some of the work yourself?
Does anyone have pictures of where exactly the LCA's are located?
Wouldn't relocation the brackets mean drilling new holes?
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Axle/Gears: SLP Zexel Posi unit 3.42's...3.73's
Im fixing to put a set of both on my car next week. I'll take some pictures of the install for ya.
No, you do not have to drill any new holes.
No, you do not have to drill any new holes.
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Originally posted by FLYNLOW92rs
How difficult is the installation and what tools are needed?
Does anyone have pictures of where exactly the LCA's are located?
Wouldn't relocation the brackets mean drilling new holes?
How difficult is the installation and what tools are needed?
Does anyone have pictures of where exactly the LCA's are located?
Wouldn't relocation the brackets mean drilling new holes?
2) The LCA's attach to the rear axle and the rear sub-frame.
3) No holes need to be drilled. The relocation brackets bolt to the axle using the existing LCA holes.
For weld-in Relo brackets, you will need to have the shop install and weld them all in one shot. You don't want to bolt them on and then attempt to drive the car. The BMR's are a straight bolt-in, no welding required, and can be done in your driveway.
A local muffler shop charged me $50 to install and MIG weld my Spohn relocation brackets. Took about an hour.
Originally posted by BretD 88GTA
1) Installation is easy and all you need is a couple wrenches.
2) The LCA's attach to the rear axle and the rear sub-frame.
3) No holes need to be drilled. The relocation brackets bolt to the axle using the existing LCA holes.
1) Installation is easy and all you need is a couple wrenches.
2) The LCA's attach to the rear axle and the rear sub-frame.
3) No holes need to be drilled. The relocation brackets bolt to the axle using the existing LCA holes.
Install new relocation brackets and then re-install the new LCA's??
No jacking up the car and no need for power tools, just a wrench that can fit all the bolts needed?
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Car: 1988 Iroc-Z
Engine: L98
Transmission: 700R4
Originally posted by FLYNLOW92rs
So i need to do is crawl underneath the car, take off the brackets, then remove the LCA's
Install new relocation brackets and then re-install the new LCA's??
No jacking up the car and no need for power tools, just a wrench that can fit all the bolts needed?
So i need to do is crawl underneath the car, take off the brackets, then remove the LCA's
Install new relocation brackets and then re-install the new LCA's??
No jacking up the car and no need for power tools, just a wrench that can fit all the bolts needed?
You will have to jack up the rear of the ca to let the pressure off of the springs so so they do not hammer through your hand and your car falls on top of you. once you jack up the car (not by axle, you want that to sag) the rest is all wrenches. I can change them on my car in an hour both sides. very simple and straight forward.
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Car: 84 Z28, '15 Colorado
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Maybe I read this wrong, but: I thought that relocation brackets had to be welded in, but your talking about bolting them up to the original holes. What kind of relocation brackets are they (company name)? Thanks.
If you're in SoCal right now check the SoCal board, RedRocket is parting out his IROC and has LCA's. PM Dyno Don for the install.
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=244046
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=244046
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relocation brackets
Originally posted by IROCtheRoad
Maybe I read this wrong, but: I thought that relocation brackets had to be welded in, but your talking about bolting them up to the original holes. What kind of relocation brackets are they (company name)? Thanks.
Maybe I read this wrong, but: I thought that relocation brackets had to be welded in, but your talking about bolting them up to the original holes. What kind of relocation brackets are they (company name)? Thanks.
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Originally posted by ede
chunster i've seen two or three SFCs on thirdgens and never seen any that required removing anything except maybe the exhaust. sure would like to see how they fit that makes them need the control arm to be removed.
chunster i've seen two or three SFCs on thirdgens and never seen any that required removing anything except maybe the exhaust. sure would like to see how they fit that makes them need the control arm to be removed.
i have bmr bolt in relocation lcas, they are easy to do . And so are the control arms. I just set them up the same length as the stock ones. Check the newest pics in my sig, i put up a few pics of what the bmr bolt in lcas look like.
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Flyn, your going to love these!!! I noticed a drastic change in grip on the road! You should have the relocation brackets weld to ensure stability!!! I had them installed when I got the shocks and panhard rod done, so I really can't tell you how much it co$t to put in! I also knew the guy so he cut me a deal!!! Let me know when you get them installed, and what you think!!! Take pic's!
I plan to put "POR 15" on the brackets, and other stuff to prevent the rust, just haven't had time!
I plan to put "POR 15" on the brackets, and other stuff to prevent the rust, just haven't had time!
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Re: relocation brackets
Originally posted by Dyno Don
BMR's absolutely have to be welded at the time of installation
BMR's absolutely have to be welded at the time of installation
http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F3-chassis.htm
Scroll down about half way and you'll see both versions of BMR's brackets.
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Is there anything "wrong" with the BMR bolt ons? In other words, are they as strong as the weld in ones? I really need relocation brackets, but I dont want to weld in new ones, so I will pay a higher price for the bolt ons if i have too.
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Originally posted by IROCtheRoad
Is there anything "wrong" with the BMR bolt ons? In other words, are they as strong as the weld in ones? I really need relocation brackets, but I dont want to weld in new ones, so I will pay a higher price for the bolt ons if i have too.
Is there anything "wrong" with the BMR bolt ons? In other words, are they as strong as the weld in ones? I really need relocation brackets, but I dont want to weld in new ones, so I will pay a higher price for the bolt ons if i have too.
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Originally posted by FLYNLOW92rs
So i need to do is crawl underneath the car, take off the brackets, then remove the LCA's
So i need to do is crawl underneath the car, take off the brackets, then remove the LCA's
No jacking up the car and no need for power tools, just a wrench that can fit all the bolts needed?
their is nothing wrong with the bolt in ones, they are fine, anyone who tells u differently is just trying to sell another tpye, these work great , the use the front shock mount to hold their angle. I think these are the best and you can weld them in if you want.
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Re: Re: relocation brackets
Originally posted by BretD 88GTA
Unless you buy the BMR bolt-in version.
http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F3-chassis.htm
Scroll down about half way and you'll see both versions of BMR's brackets.
Unless you buy the BMR bolt-in version.
http://www.bmrfabrication.com/F3-chassis.htm
Scroll down about half way and you'll see both versions of BMR's brackets.
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