Rack and Pinion in and Thrid Gen????
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Car: 89 Camaro RS
Engine: Carb'd 350
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Axle/Gears: 3.70
Rack and Pinion in and Thrid Gen????
Hye guys i was just wondering if there was an affordalbe way to convert my 89 camaro to a rack and pinion setup? I've been planing on redoin the front suspension this before summer hit and thought i could go with a rack and pinion. If not what would your suggest i know i'm redoing the ball joint tierod ends centerlink idler arm and I have energy suspsion bushing for the A arms so what else could i need ?
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Car: 1984z28
Engine: soon to have ls1
Transmission: soon to have t56
um...no, sorry theres not. Not that anyone has found anyway. The geometry is all messed up so no there really isn't a reasonable way to do it.
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Car: 1984 Z28
Engine: SLOW carbed ls
Transmission: TH400 with brake, 8" PTC converter
Axle/Gears: moser 9" 4.11
i've seen a few in person, told me that the steering radius turns to crap afterwards. AJE racing builds some tubular crossmembers with that setup in mind.
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there's a couple ways to do it. none of them are worth the effort though.
1. you put a rack in with unmodified spindles and your steering radius turns no crap
2. you modify the spindles and risk them breaking when your going 90 down the high way, or
3. spend 1500 to 2000 on a modified rack with all kinds of special valving and stuff to get the radius to a decent level
thats the only choices i've found and i've been looking around for a while.
1. you put a rack in with unmodified spindles and your steering radius turns no crap
2. you modify the spindles and risk them breaking when your going 90 down the high way, or
3. spend 1500 to 2000 on a modified rack with all kinds of special valving and stuff to get the radius to a decent level
thats the only choices i've found and i've been looking around for a while.
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Car: 1989 Iroc-Z
Engine: 350, ZZ4 equivalent
Transmission: Pro-Built Road Race 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23 Dana 44
The best solution I have seen to fix the steering radius problem would be to machine the spindle as seen in this post in this thread
Machining the spindle should not affect the strength and integrity of it since you would just be milling a flat spot and drilling a hole. If you were to cut and weld the spindle this would greatly decrease the strength of the spindle. The only problem would be if the spindle is thick enough at the drilling point shown in the picture.
The best solution would be to have custom spindles cast but that would be very expensive unless there was enough demand to make a large enough quantity.
Machining the spindle should not affect the strength and integrity of it since you would just be milling a flat spot and drilling a hole. If you were to cut and weld the spindle this would greatly decrease the strength of the spindle. The only problem would be if the spindle is thick enough at the drilling point shown in the picture.
The best solution would be to have custom spindles cast but that would be very expensive unless there was enough demand to make a large enough quantity.
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from what the pick looks like, there wouldn't be enough meat left on the arm
to be stong enough. Not for my taste anyway
to be stong enough. Not for my taste anyway
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Car: 1983 z-28/SFC/bilsteins/adj.arms
Engine: 355sbc/Demon650dp/hedmanheaders/
Transmission: t-5, alum DS
Axle/Gears: 3.42 torsen posi, baer discs
get an aje k member with mounts for a fox body mustang rack. it works...i talked to the guys at ajeand they tell me they've done several cars with this set-up....the racks are the right length for our cars. call them and get more info.
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Car: 84' Monte
Engine: 350
Transmission: 700-r4
Axle/Gears: ferd 9" posi 3.50 gears
Just getting the rack to fit is the first part of the problem, the second part is the steering radius issues. The third part and probably the most important part is getting the bump steer and ackerman worked out to something acceptable.
This is race car engineering at it's finest, and completely not worth it for a little bit of increased steering feel. I suggest you look into a power steering pump with an adjustable pressure regulator, this will help tone down the assist and give you the feel you're after without the geometry headaches of the rack.
This is race car engineering at it's finest, and completely not worth it for a little bit of increased steering feel. I suggest you look into a power steering pump with an adjustable pressure regulator, this will help tone down the assist and give you the feel you're after without the geometry headaches of the rack.
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