JAMEX from eBay arrived today
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From: Livermore, Ca. US
Car: Firebird SSA
Engine: 3.1
Transmission: 700R4
My little V6 - As performace is kind hard to tell with the wonderbar and subframes installed. But every little bit counts!
BTY - They send me an extra bar. Their goof up. They told me to keep the extra bar
BTY - They send me an extra bar. Their goof up. They told me to keep the extra bar
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From: Central NJ, USA
Car: 1986 Firebird
Engine: 2.8 V6
Transmission: 700R4
So it DOES fit the V6? Awesome! How tight is the clearance between the bar and the throttle body? How close does the bar come to the hood? I noticed you have your hood insulation removed; is that because of the bar?
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Firebird 90
Just looking at your installation pictures, and my opinion is it may work on your V-6 with less torque then a 350. But used with a high torque engine that FLIMSY BAR WITH THOSE CRIMPPED ENDS
and only two bolts per side looks VERY, VERY WEAK. I think you got taken on this, however; it looks good even if does not work.
Just looking at your installation pictures, and my opinion is it may work on your V-6 with less torque then a 350. But used with a high torque engine that FLIMSY BAR WITH THOSE CRIMPPED ENDS
and only two bolts per side looks VERY, VERY WEAK. I think you got taken on this, however; it looks good even if does not work.
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From: Livermore, Ca. US
Car: Firebird SSA
Engine: 3.1
Transmission: 700R4
Ya I known they look flimsy. Some one on the V6 board suggested to weld them in place. Not bad for a $30 test. Might have to dig up more money to buy one of thoses Hotchkit bars. It gives us V6 guy some hope. Back to my other project car....
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Z28DJP1987 with logic like that I guess every V8 third gen must have really twisted front suspension by now as none came with a stut tower bar . All the bar does is tie the stuts together engine torque has nothing to do with it as I see it
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Like I said, the installaltion looks very good, however; bite the bullet and spend the money for the Hotchkis STB. I have used one for the last three years and it really takes the FLEX out of the front end.
Like I said, the installaltion looks very good, however; bite the bullet and spend the money for the Hotchkis STB. I have used one for the last three years and it really takes the FLEX out of the front end.
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From: Livermore, Ca. US
Car: Firebird SSA
Engine: 3.1
Transmission: 700R4
Z28DJP1987 - Can't bit the bullet on this car any more. Just bought a Superram and all new heim suspension parts for my Vette. Can you see my bird be hide the Vette...
Will work for paint.
Will work for paint.
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Originally posted by Z28DJP1987
Firebird 90
Just looking at your installation pictures, and my opinion is it may work on your V-6 with less torque then a 350. But used with a high torque engine that FLIMSY BAR WITH THOSE CRIMPPED ENDS
and only two bolts per side looks VERY, VERY WEAK. I think you got taken on this, however; it looks good even if does not work.
Firebird 90
Just looking at your installation pictures, and my opinion is it may work on your V-6 with less torque then a 350. But used with a high torque engine that FLIMSY BAR WITH THOSE CRIMPPED ENDS
and only two bolts per side looks VERY, VERY WEAK. I think you got taken on this, however; it looks good even if does not work.
The bar itself does have some flex to it so that might be it's weakness.
BTW did your bar come with the fasteners that hold the end bracket to the strut tower? mine didn't.
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From: Littleton, CO
Car: 85 Z28
Engine: 305 TPI (dead) -> building 355
Transmission: 27 spline 700R4 (another one died) -> T5 goin in next
just drill four (two per side) 3/8" holes, buy some nuts and bolts(less that $3) and you are good to go. I put mine in on Tuesday. Don't have pics or results yet. I haven't been able to give it a good test drive yet. I might be able to tomorrow; we'll see.
Later,
Jesse
Later,
Jesse
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From: Sacramento, CA.
Car: 86 Z-28
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 700R4
I got mine on 3/29 but have not had a chance to install it yet. This weekend for sure. Also got my steeringbox brace from thunder racing on 3/18 and put that on a few hours ago. Haven't driven it yet, will find out tomorrow. I haven't logged on in a while, but am glad for the info on the stb install...
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