On friday I went to the track for the first time in almost year, The last time I ran my car I ran a 15.42 at 90 Mph. Since then I have added the Lt1 cam, 3.42s, SS-hood, an OE, STB, and subframe conectors... oh yea and a NOS tbi plate system with 125 shot
I decided it was time to run it at the track
I was gona run the 125 shot half way threw the track but i decided to run it off the line since I was gona run the ET streets mounted on 15" rims and had faith in my little ol 305. I ran it with the drag lites in the front, the sway bar removed, and a short belt that bybassed the AC and PS.
Turned the Fuel presure all the way up and retared the timing, NGK cold pulgs gapped at .035
Temp. was 55 F at about 9 Pm when I first ran my car

First
12.839 @ 106.592
1.795 60'
2nd
13.143 @ 107.759
1.899 60'
3rd
13.463 @ 102.922
1.918 60' <bottle was cold

 

sorry for the bad pics I will take better ones in the coming days

 

another

 

Pic of the short belt

 

very awsome man... i just bought a 91 bird not to long ago with a LO3 in it.... i lost faith when i did my mock 1/4 mile and it barley kept up with my 3.1's time... but once i get the cam, heads and headers... im beginning to belive that this could be a beautiful relationship

 

wow ure the first here to hit 12s. did u also run ure car without the 125 shot since adding the cam and gears.

 

Very cool.
Congratulations.
-Rich-

 

oh yea , CONGRATS man. I love that hood but what do u do in the rain, will rain water rush into ure engine in a storm.

 

congrats man i was almost there but i didnt swap cams but if i wouldve i wouldve have ran thos numbers too prob. i swapped over to carb but if i were to do it again i wouldve kept my 305 tbi combo due to its simplicity but i thought carb was better. with the nos and hypetech i ran my base timing at 6 degrees advanced and ran ultra 94 and had no detonation probs maybe that'll help ya out. another thing build up the suspension with LCA's, relocators and drag shocks and maybe a spohn torque arm that'll help your traction. without a cam i was running 1.72's on my 60's so i think you could prob pull 1.6's if youd do some more work on your rear suspension, also id try to shed more weight out of the car who knows you may be able to hit an 11 with it if you go far enough who knows?

 

Impressive man! Esp. with stock intake/heads. Gives me something to look forward too once I figure out traction and tuning and maybe add a lil juice

 

I was gonna run my car without the NOS just to see the improve ments with LT1 cam and gears but i was pressed for time and did not want to advace the timing for just one run. I do have my lower control arms boxed, but i know i need more suspension mods and proly an S-10 stall or somthing like that.
Im not gona run my car with the 125 shot for another long while till i get a stall and some other things. The L03 took the shot very good off the line without even a cough but I dont know how much more she will take cuase I ran it 3 times and my car has 136K.

 

The intake on SS hood has a little lip of fiber glass that catches most of the water coming in. In heavy rain I have noticed drops of water on the air cleaner cover but nofin major.

 

ZRATED, what is the length of the belt you used to bypass the a/c and p/s. I will have to give that a try. Any special problems?

 

Duno the exact size, Just take a piece of string and aprox. the lenth of belt you are gona need and you should be able to find it at ur local autoparts store. I ran the drag lites in the font so i had no problems with steering but if your going to run your stock front tires it is very hard to turn the steering wheel when your getting lined up at the track

 

:hail: :hail: :hail: :hail: 12.839 @ 106.592

 

that is sweet man!!!!!
looks liek there may still eb a ltitle bit of wheel spin off the line, even on the best run. wiht tha tkind of mph you shoudl be able to cut very low 1.6's in the 60ft, maybe even a high 1.5.
your combo is goin great. keep up the good work and look for soem traction for next time.

later
tim

 

12.83 out of a 305 TBI with stock heads? At the risk of pissing off the entire world of TBI lovers, I must say that I would have to see it to believe it. The last pass seems a little more believable. Your motor should run 13's w/o juice if it went that fast. Not saying you didn't, but it seems a bit hard to swallow. Did you stage with the back wheels? Let's face it, the TBI is no power house, and getting a 12 second pass out of a stock motor, even with juice.....

sorry to be a doubter, I would just like to see it myself....

 

So your saying my time slips are wrong? just ask that Stock Ls1 6 speed that I smoked on the first run. Mabey if i would have showed you just one time slip that would be less believable but I have three of them. The reason they get slower as the night went on is becuase I do not have a bottle warmer and night was chilly and the bottle presure started to decrease. I would say those times would be consistant with a bottle losing presure. Ok lets say for sum crazy reason your right and the first run is a mistake or for sum reason the ET was wrong, how come I got another run about an hour later at 13.143 @ 107.759 on a different lane at a different time. You dont think the LT1 cam coupled with a 125 shot from the start line to the finish is enough to get me that time :lala:
camaroracer1992 was hitting 13.1s with out a cam in his l03

 

I believe u, dont even let that kids bs bother u :hail:

 

I believe you too, no offense kid, but I've got my stock LO3 running low 15's... with the cam, headers, traction mods, and nos I sure as hell would believe he broke into 12's with no problem.

Nothing wrong with tbi cept they're old and beat up these days.

 

Better check that 3rd run again...

 

he is older then you

 

lo hahaah my bad *dont let that older dudes bs bother u

:lala:

 

Good job man! Nice to see the tbi's going fast. To those who doubt the time, you gotta remember the NO2 shot rating of 125 hp is just ballpark,, could easily be 20 HP higher or lower.

If you run the times in one of those cheesy online HP calc's you get 350 - 400 horse. Lets say the nos was at 150hp, thats only 200 - 250 hp his motor would have to be makin'......... I'm sure he has that.

 

AWESOME! Great job and dedication. Your trap speeds are nearly identical to my LS1 (though I'm hitting 107 consistently now with MAF ends)...


That is kick-***. Wish I could have had such a fast thirdgen!

 

I'm not surprised. A 12.8 Nitroused car should be 15.1-14.9 Sounds like you're right were you're supposed to be.

 

I just said that I would have to see it to believe it. I have been around this long enough to know that it seems like stretch. How the hell do you pick up over 2 seconds with a 125 shot? Just doesn't happen.

That is the problem with this site. None of you know what real power is. If you did, you wouldn't waste time with the TBI. Been there myself, and seen it isn't worth it. My ride had all the **** yours did, and it wnet high 13's on its best day. Tough to believe you magically picked up another second.
Anyone can post timeslips from anywhere.

If you don't like my opinion, you can all suck my ***.

 

actually phil. it happens all teh time. camaroracer1992 coudl only manage a 15.1 without the bottle, with it he knocked off 2 seconds.
i know a few 4th gen guys that have seen similar results.
teh cam will make a bigger difference than an intake because the cam is a bigger restriction to horse power. our stock cam really is that bad. that is why he got a larger gain out of the cam than camaroracer got out fo having the edelbrock intake.
i gotta say i believe him, and i wanna see it too. maybe one of ht emajor gatherings this summer we can get a few tbi heads together for soem runs


later
tim

 

The 305 seems to love nitrous. Camaroracer1992 and ZRATD seem to have the same results. AutoRoc dumped 2 seconds with a 100 NX shot on his 305 tpi. Makes me want the bottle pretty bad.

 

Why are the timeslips all crumpled up? Could it be that someone had thrown them away and you picked them up? Just playing Devil's advocate, because even on my first runs with the GN in street trim and untuned I folded my slips and put them in my glove box. So, if this was the best slips so far you have gotten and running a 12 on an LO3 to boot, I can't imagine you crumpling them up like that. Just seems strange.

 

Don't make me Laugh. 1.5 60's on a 12.8 Run w/ 107 mph ?

Gimme a break.

JUst two weeks ago my neighbors Nova Ripped a 1.5 60" On a dead hook and ran a 11.17 @ 119 lol

I think the best part is, Even with a 125 shot, Your Trapping stock ls1 Speeds.

LOL

Hell, On your Third Run Im only 3 mph behind you with a stock headed, stock exhuast Manifold Lg4, LOL

You could put a 125 shot on volkswagon bug and prolly run better times.

 

maybe he just folded them a few times and stuck them in his pocket, who cares if there crumpled.

OH and why would someone lie on a website, not like hes gaining anything special by making times up hes prob neva gona see anyone on this board in real life anyway

 

So who cares if ure 3 mph slower than his 3rd run his best is still 7 seconds faster than u. And about ure idea of the volkswagon bug being faster with a 125 shot - who gives a $hit ,Go buy a volkswagon then. Why dont u keep ure arrogant comments to ureself.

 

woops ** his best is still 7mph faster than ures

 

oh yea , and make sure u buy a spoiler too

 

he didn't cut a 1.5 60ft, he cut a 1.7. your example is also completely off base since your neighbor ran 13 more mph, that is a sign of a better power to weight ratio. your jsutification for cutting on him is way off base.
i also don't see the point of you saying that your car is slower than his. what does that prove?

read then speak. if you feel liek cutting on tbi and not beign constructive, stay off this tech board.

later
tim

 

Alot of people lie dude, it's the sad truth. Many can't come to terms of having a slow car so they lie to themselves and start believing they have a fast car. Problem is, most people can see through the BS and when they get called on it, well, then they get all pissy. Fact is, I made statement pointing out that they were all crumpled up, not saying he didn't do it, just an observation.

 

i know what you are sayin bill. then again, as you pull out teh slips a dozen times and throw them back in the car and sit on them and stuff they can get pretty macked. i knwo most of my timeslips come hoem in pretty sad shape cause i jsut enter them into my log book and throw them on the floor.

later
tim

 

this board is not about teh appearance or value of cars. any posts pertaining to taht type of information are being deleted.

later
tim

 

yea true sorry about the non tech posting.

So now that uve hit 12's. What u planning on doing next hmm im thinking heads, intake, maybe a converter. I wanna see u get 11s man , keep up the good work.

 

NOS has had me interested for awhile...

What times do you guys think I could pull off with NO2 (125 shot), given that my time now is arount 14.2 (4200lb truck) . I really don't think 12s would be instore (well maybe with slicks).

 

I don't see why everyone is making a fuss and debating his times. Those are the times he's supposed to be running with his setup.

 

`You obviously can't read or you would notice he isn't running 1.5 60's and isn't near a 119 trap speed yet.
`That's funny, figure a stock LS1 is about 350hp and the Lo3 is ~190+125=315hp and he's trapping same speeds...isn't that very GOOD all things else equal (weight, etc)?!?!?!
`Yeah...wow, you're still slower than him so what was your point?
`I don't think I have to even comment on this because you already look stupid for saying that. Nice analogy if you're thinking about taking the SATs again. As for the rest of us we like to compare results from a baseline, not cross platforms and bench racing

 

nice work man. sorry i gotta close this, i think its ran out of tech