http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2413675837

check the link out above. it looks like he's doing the ultimate tbi mods, but i'm not sure about the cfms he's claiming.

 

I dunno about the 720 cfm claim, but it does look like some good work to me. Maybe he flowed it without the injector pod on?

 

I just sent them this email...

I'll be sure to let you know if he responds.

BTW, did anyone notice how much feedback this person has?

ZERO!!!

EDIT:One more thing... a 1" injector spacer? That's getting pretty far away, isn't it?

 

Holy crap, that guy has got over $207 for the thing already. Im in the wrong buisness

Charlo

 

Well you know that old saying ...

"Honesty's the best policy"

Notice the word "wealthiest" isn't in there.

 

hahaha...I believe "a fool and his money" are a better quote here....

 

It closed at $385! More expensive than a new one from Holley hehe!

 

what the hell are these people thinking that bid on these parts, same people that buy $100 GM wonderbars and $250 non AC heater boxes. I need to make a trip to the junk yard. That is a $35 TBI that the guy put an hour or two of labor into. I want to get paid $175-350 per hour for my labor.

The worst thing is, all those stupid bidders on ebay are causing the prices of these parts to go up, the more they are willing to spend, the more the sellers want. I have seen IROCZDAVE's non AC box go from $55 to $80 in less than a year.

 

Yeah no sht. I can get used TBI's with injectors for $15 a piece. Using a die grinder and a dremel I can make a very nice TB in an hour or two.

geez...

 

Even seen parts go for twice as much as Summit charges

 

very true. i email people all the time and tell them there stuff is more then this store sells it for. There answer. well if you don't like it buy it from there but people are willing to buy it from me so blow off. something like that. i can't believe people don't do the research before buying stuff. oh well enough venting.

Nick

 

it's not always that bad on ebay.

in the past week, i've bought a slp posi unit with 3.42 gears for $125. a set of 4 th gen slp firehawk rims for $410 and passed on a set of slp 1/34" headers with cat back exhaust when it went over $300.

yeah, some people go nuts when they get the bidding fever, but have you considered that someone who doesn't have a die grinder, who doesn't have a dremel too and doesn't have a lot of mechanical aptitude would be glad to pay $150-200 for one rather than have to go out and buy a die grinder ($100), buy a dremel tool ($50) and experiment? not long ago, a kid posted pics of the tbi unit he'd been trying to do the ultimate tbi mods on. the general consensus was he'd done some nice work .... right up until he ground off a couple of critical parts. now he had junk.

not every car enthusiast is a master mechanic or even a passable diy'er. give 'em a break.

 

Sorry don't want to argue but here my point of view. why pay 150 to 200 for a modified TBI bottom or the whole thing. When you can get a brand new one with warrenty and that flows better for 300 give or take. To me why buy something used and have it break or something else when you can get a new one for alittle more and know you have a good product.

Now on the other hand. If you do the work yourself then that would be ok to keep it. because it would cost you less with simple tools. And only a dremel is needed. Just takes sometime.
and the dremel can be used more then once so if you do something else down the road it can pay for it's self. well thats my 2 cents.

But in the long run i'd still buy new.

Nick

 

Some people sure like to BS a lot. Did you also notice over and above all this other nonsense, his stock head, TBI and intake eqipped( all ported by him of course) 350 along with the stock chip made 380 HP. I really wish i knew this guys secret, but in a way I do, its called not living in the real world.

 

I got a response from the email I sent him. Here's what I sent him

Here's the response I got

Typical response from someone who knows they've been caught red handed.

I replied back to him with this reponse...

 

Smoothe, yes
Shiney, yes
720CFM - not likely.
Worth more than $100 - sorry, not IMHO

On the bright side, it adds about as much HP as a Jegs bumper-sticker.

 

You no like my sticker.



BTW, I already got a response from him...

This is what I wrote to him...

As you can tell, the guy's getting on my last nerve.

And I'm serious. I'll report his ***. There's no need to claim something, but have no proof to back it up. He's misleading people. AFAIK, that's against Ebay's policies.

And just so you know, if the dip**** would have just put "up to 700 cfm", then he'd be scott-free. But I guess some people are just too stupid, or too rotten.

 

i agree 200 percent. I hate people like that and have had incounters with alot to. I've even had people take my money and say i never sent the money and give me bad feedbacks. And not to metion all my money matters are done though paypal so theres a record and they ussually get caught stiffing me. Did i mention how much people like this **** me off?? I think he just playing the odds so he can make a quick buck and run. oh well enough venting. my 2 cents

Nick

 

He's been reported.

I tried to warn him.

 

LOL - One of the TBs almost went for under $200, he pulled it at the last minute and cancelled all bids

 

I bet you the guy that "won" the first TBI is feeling pretty dumb right now, not only did he buy a $386 TBI, but the last 2 TBIs "only" went for $255 and $219.
But man, this guy just made about $860 from selling 3 TBIs.

 

Yeah but they are MAGIC 720 cfm TBIs
One .... er four of a kind!

 

....and this guy is going to pull an item just because he isnt satisfied with the current bid amount, PUT A DAMN RESERVE ON IT!!!!!!!!

 

I'd love to see the reason for that because thats against the rules too. i can be the biggest a** if you get me mad enough. and people like this pss me off.

 

I Agree - he has not replied to my email

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...tem=2414402574

User ID Action / Explanation Date of bid and retraction
mehaly(19) Cancelled $0.01
Explanation:The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid:May-07-03 09:13:09 PDT
CancelledMay-13-03 16:04:20 PDT
azsneeker(65) Cancelled $0.01
Explanation:The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid:May-07-03 00:22:59 PDT
CancelledMay-13-03 16:04:20 PDT
jmontign@yahoo.com(21) Cancelled $0.01
Explanation:The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid:May-13-03 14:04:25 PDT
CancelledMay-13-03 16:04:20 PDT
viperdrive(34) Cancelled $0.01
Explanation:The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid:May-11-03 16:16:19 PDT
CancelledMay-13-03 16:04:20 PDT
cdviper(31) Cancelled $0.01
Explanation:The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid:May-06-03 21:27:54 PDT
CancelledMay-13-03 16:04:20 PDT
mmp982(40) Cancelled $0.01
Explanation:The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid:May-11-03 12:43:35 PDT
CancelledMay-13-03 16:04:20 PDT
hystandardz(41) Cancelled $0.01
Explanation:The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid:May-13-03 15:00:15 PDT
CancelledMay-13-03 16:04:21 PDT
flipracrxx(12) Cancelled $0.01
Explanation:The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid:May-06-03 19:33:30 PDT
CancelledMay-13-03 16:04:21 PDT
hx13411(1) Cancelled $0.01
Explanation:The seller ended the listing early and cancelled all bids. Bid:May-13-03 14:58:43 PDT
CancelledMay-13-03 16:04:21 PDT

 

got one for you. i just reported him for 3 offenses.

Canceling bids for now reason
then relisting the same item
add upgrades for addition cost but in the ad there included?? hum

just thought i'd keep you updated. Did you see he also has 0 feedbacks makes me think.

Nick

oh by the way did you notice that it only has 1 11/16 inch bores.

 

Yea..... I noticed that, and that's basically what I told Ebay.

Wanna see the BEST part??? :sillylol:

Here's the latest email I got AFTER I told him I reported him...



I replied to him with a smilie that is sleeping. He's got me shaking in my shoes now.

 

Oh yea... I forgot to mention

I tried to email the winner of that auction to tell him that he should pay to have the TB flowed, and if it's not "just under a 720cfm flow rate" then he should demand his money back. The guy selling it is not telling the whole story (i.e. he's lying).

The funniest thing happened. BOTH times I tried to send him the email, it came back to me saying the email didn't exist. I also told Ebay that, which could be a sign of "shill bidding".

For those that don't know what that is...
If I were to register at Ebay under another logon name, and keep bidding on MY OWN items with my original logon name to keep the price high, that's called "shill bidding". It's WAY more illegal than what dipsh*t is accusing me of. And I can guarantee that Ebay will look into THAT!!

 

That's part of why I am pissed ...

Here's the email he finally sent me

 

got a new one for you check out his new ad. i guess he had to change it since i keep reporting him. look at the last line. about his attorney and dead beat bidders. i wonder why??

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2416616264


Nick

 

I could be wrong, but doesn't the court's clerk serve court dates?

 

did you notice he no longer claims a specific airflow? before, he said 720 cfm (i think). now it's just "monsterous airflow"

btw, what is a "tbi dreamer" and, after selling a few of these, don't you think he could afford spellcheck?

 

I just realized something rather interesting

He was so busy trying to accuse ME of "Making a false accusation", but read this part of his description ...

Isn't he doing the SAME thing to Holley??

What a dipship

SOOOOOOOO ... now it's time to vote.

Who wants to notify Holley of his "false accusations"???? :sillylol:

 

i'll help you say something. i've been tring to talk to him and he response the same way to me or just ignores me.

 

is such a dumba** that makes me wanna stop buying on ebay i might just start another account and bid it up and then tell him he's beat

 

I wonder if he can back any of these claims up?
I mean, who would really know of those were truly "matched" injectors?

And why I have the feeling he's not paying $140 for a used TB?

But hey the "Priceless" Machine and polish job makes up for it right?





I can't believe people are blowing $400 on these

 

looks like he went to turbocity.com and found his prices. what do you think.

 

I emailed him about the cfm and this is what he wrote.

The first race-job done to the first test mule was a few cfm's shy of 700. I havn't the time to have every unit tested, but would if I did. There isn't a possible way every unit will have the very same exact numbers as they're all done by hand. They are all however given the same racejobs. I apologize for the lack of information. Thank you for your interest and let me know if I can be of any more help.

Nate

Didn't he claim 720 cfm before?

 

Well maybe I will stay away from EBAY... seems like I will get screwed over

...maybe you guys can help me out then.

I recently just bought a used tb in order to do the ultimate tbi mods to it. Well I am young and relatively inexperienced and I definetly screwed it up. ( I was shaving down the throttle shaft and shaved it a little too close and busted one of the butterflys off)

SO now I am 30 bucks in the hole with no ultimate tb....

I really want to do the ultimate TBI mods but am very hesitant to.

Where can I get a cheap TB and does anyone do the Ultimate TBI mods for a small fee or anything like that?

Thanks
Jason

 

Sorry to hear about your TB man.
TBI units can be found for $50 or less from online-scrapyards
or even off ebay. They can be had much cheaper at a local
junkyard for under $25.

Also, There is at least one person posting in the classified section daily who does the Ultimate TBI mods and even makes spacers decently cheap. Something like $55 for the whole package.

Units from 305/350 cars/trucks are interchangeable with the one you lost. Units from certain V6 trucks are also interchangeable with a small adapter or swap. I think it was the TPS, but I could be wrong. (The plugs are just slightly different)

I know I've seen TBI units and TBI units with manifolds on ebay recently. (Unmodified). Just be sure to ask teh seller before you bid, make sure it is what you think it is and it is in good working order (non-DOA guarentees are nice)

- James

 

Hey seanof30306,

Do you have links to anywhere I can get a good TB for my 305? Any info would be appericatied.

Thanks

 

That guy NEEDS an attorney. Besides, false accusations ar emade every day.. especially in congress, where LYING is permitted. Your bank will be able to notorize all of your court depositions for the court if you wind up there (cost = nothing). Just your time, which may be more valuable.

Anyway this a jackass who saw a golden opportunity to cash in on people on ebay.

Keep those emails going!

 

if your 305 is stock, the one on your engine is fine. putting a "bigger" one on it will kill the one benefit of our engines ... the awesome torque from idle - 3000 rpm. that's why they're fun to drive.

there's a tech article on the ultimate tbi mods in the tech section. honestly, it's a little hard to understand for a typical "magazine mechanic" like me, but the pics on the ebay ad from the guy we're all slamming on here are a good representation of the ultimate tbi mods. when you look at a stock tbi and at them, you clearly understand all.

i'd suggest going to the junkyard and picking up two tbi units complete with injector pods, etc. leave everything on one of them for reference. that way, you can do the ultimate tbi mods without grinding off anything important. you can pick tbi units up all day long in junkyards for $20-25.

you can also go on ebay, in the "air intake and fuel delivery" section and do a search on "tbi". used stockers there should go for around $35

if you don't want to do that, there's a guy advertising in the classified section on here who will do the ultimate tbi mods for you for $25 (i think)

the big "logjam" in our 305s is the heads. that's why you see people put headers, cat backs, intakes, ignitions, gears, etc. and still run 15s. it's nothing they're doing wrong, it's the design of the heads. it takes incredibly good tuning to get a stock-head 305 into the 14s. years ago, hot rod magazine ran a series of articles on a 305 tbi camaro. they got over 300hp out of it using the stock tbi. your stock tbi flows more than enough for your engine as it is.

here's the list of improvements i'm going to do on my 305 tbi (in order). i'm doing it in stages so i can monitor the effectiveness of eac modification).

1. exhaust (cat back with hi flow catalytic converter) (done)

2. ultimate tbi mods (done, but think i can grind more off)

3. msd 6a ignition (done)

4. subframe connectors (done)

5. boxed control arms and adjustable panhard bar (done)

6. polyeurethene bushings (done)

7. posi and 3.42 gears (from 3.08) (have unit and gears, have to get installed)

8. underdrive pulleys

9. improved air induction (planning a couple of things that i hope will be better than the 305 ho camaro setup that's so popular and so hard to find)

10. headers

11. vacuum adjustable fuel pressure regulator

12. intake (carb intake w/adapter)

13. heads and cam (probably shaved vortecs)

with the mods currently in place, it put out 161 hp and 253 lbs ft. torque on a chassis dyno. we'll see what it gets in the future.

good luck with yours!

 

guess somebody figured out they could make cash on this stuff better than some others could...

dont know why you guys are so upset about this. he didnt nail you for the price? right? i agree with the previous... if you dont like it dont buy it. it is however ok to feel sorry for the person who purchased at that price.

i dont approve of the practice, and the threats and over inflated wording makes it seem like he is 17 trying to sound smarter than he is. if we find out this person is from thirdgen, i say we ban him.. for profiting from diy articles here.

closing the post. we dont need any more ranting... sticky to the top for a while so others dont get nailed from here.