I just took off my hood insolation (was looking pretty bad and anti-freeze got all over it ...don't ask) Will the K&N lid help at all on the stock air cleaner and stock hood?..is it worth the money or should I put my money else where ?

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1988 Sport Coupe 305 TBI
K&N
Flowmaster exhaust


Daily driver:
1988 K1500 5.7 4x4 shortbed flowmaster cat-back gutted cat.
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Buy the summit open element air filter. Its $20, and you'll see more of a gain over just the lid. If you want you could add the lid later, too.

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Chuck Kulchar
1991 RS
Open Element w/K&N
3.42 - posi - disc
3" cat and Force II cat-back

 

wouldnt it be possible for the lid to pick up cooler air as opposed to the open element?

 

Not really. They'll both be pulling air from inside the engine, which is ovbiously gonna be pretty hot. The only way to overcome would be a cowl or other aftermarket hood, but then the benefits of open element become even more known.

But hell, its $20 for the open element, you could prolly do 'em both.

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Chuck Kulchar
1991 RS
Open Element w/K&N
3.42 - posi - disc
3" cat and Force II cat-back

 

The Xstream lid will not fit on the stock air cleaner assembly, anyhow... I tried it. I ended up buying an open element cleaner.

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Flowmaster 80 series muffler
no Air/Cat, straight pipe
no smog pump/pulley
K&N Open Element cleaner
Ultimate TBI Mods
Homemade Subframe Connectors
GM Wonderbar
lead pedal foot . See my project rocket turtle @
http://oursportscars.homestead.com/firebird.html

 

yeah I was told that buy a guy at a show...he had a little plate made to fit on around the cleaner so it would fit....if I get an open element where do I put the sensors on the base ??? put them on the new base ?

 

Theres a tech article off the main thirdgen.org page.

Basically you'll put a screw in the vacuum line comming off the tbi, you'll relocate the IAC sensor to somwhere that's getting cool air (or drill a hole in the new air cleaner and put it back in) and buy a breather ($6 or so at autozone for the mr. gasket) on where the breather ran into the stock air cleaner housing. 10 minute job if you can get the IAC out, but ist kidna tricky. Just wiggle it with a pair of needle nose pliars and it should come out.

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Chuck Kulchar
1991 RS
Open Element w/K&N
3.42 - posi - disc
3" cat and Force II cat-back

 

I chose to relocate my IAT sensor inside my aircleaner. Pretty easy, but it took us a 1/2 hour at the hardware store to figure out that the thread on the sensor was "pipe thread" and thats why none of the normal nuts fit it. I don't have anywhere to host pics at the moment but i can email you some. The pics will also show that i should have put it farther inside, it stuck out to far and i had to dent the indide of the filter in a bit so it would fit on... But on the outside you can't tell.

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88 Camaro (The mighty LO3 SC!)
305TBI/700R4/2.73/122,XXX miles
14" Open Element and Flowmaster 80 seires

Next up: headers and gears

 

sounds good.. your car sounds just like mine.. I almost have 122,000 on it