when my car goes into drive it stalled and wouldnt start. today we replaced plugs wplug wires and oil. now when the car cranks it blows blue smoke from the front and now it dont even turn over the battery isnt dead but the starter clicks
anyone knows what could be screwed up on this beast?

 

is it hydrolocked? how did yhe old plugs look? were any soaked.

 

what is hyrdolocked?

when i pulled the old plugs out alot of them had all ready been soaked in oil and alot looked unburned and alot were burned bad. this is not good being i put these plugs in 2 months ago and i never drive the car all i do is let it idle. today we started car put it in drive it drifted forward and died also none of the brakes would work and all we get is extremely hard cranking and lots of starter clicking but the volt gauge reads good high volts. i dont understand it worked just fine last week.

 

cracked head/head gaskets. the fact that 2 month old plugs are soaked in oil is the give away. blue smoke, not starting easy just adds to it. the brake problem is bad vaccum. can be from very low idle, vaccum leaks, to bad brake booster/calibers/hoses/master cyclinder.

 

the weird thing is everything on the 1 3 5 7 side are all good and healthy looking but on 2 4 6 8 side its all burned and unburned and shitty looking plugs. the blue smoke came out of no where from the front of the car when i was cranking it. now when i crank it pops the starter clicks and the carb(throttle body) blows blue smoke out of the 2 4 6 8 side opening

 

well now you know what side has the crack in it. and if the blue smoke is coming from the front i would think its a seal cracked on the head or exhaust manifold. but now you know which head to take off. take it off have it checked out and replace the seal. also crack inside the cyclinders, make sure they are ok. and the starter pops? explain more? also a side note, grab a breaker bar and put a socket on the crank pulley and turn it. if it turns (should be sorta easy) then the rotating assembly should be fine, if not then well rebuild or get a new one.

 

it makes this god awful noise... i never heard something like it before. i dont know how this happened with blown head gasket because the car ran fine then when i put it in drive she just stalled and wouldnt start

 

ya i now what you mean i had the same problem with my 88, it was a cracked seal (i was losing coolant into the cyclinders tho) anywaz do the breaker bar thing to see if the motor turns, bc if it does then im willing to bet something is wrong with the starter. if the motor turns by hand then take off the starter and take it to umm advance auto parts, they do free starter testing.

on my 84 the starter would turn the motor for maybe a half a turn, seemed like the flywheel was missing teeth. well i took of the starter to see how bad the teeth where, and get this we turned the whole motor and not a single tooth missing. took it to advance had it tested and saw the gear sliding back into the housing when trying to start.

also on my 84 stalling and not starting, my coil pack and control module went bad, id ont now if there is a way to test those.

and you put it into drive...and it stalls...hmm is it an instant stall like idle is to low or does it take a little bit of time to stall?

 

when i started it she idled low stalled i turned distributor it fired up i put it in drive it stalled as soon as i let go of brake then it wouldnt start back up it was basicaly instantly when i put it in drive

 

sounds like idle is to low. when its in park and idleing whats the idle at? and really need to fix that crack bc then can give a better idel of what else needs to be looked at/fixed.

 

i will fix it saturday because thats the only day i can get down there to look at it is every other saturday and sunday. when it idles in park its at 1200 rpm

 

ok. idle at 1200 in park, warmed up? thats...little high but good. might be coil pack and or control module. but deffently have that starter checked and turn the crank by hand. seal that crack up and then we can fix the dieing issue.

 

believe me saturday the first thing im doing is pulling both the heads and replacing the gaskets and then replacing the intake gaskets and the manifold gaskets. for the ignition coil if i get an aftermarket one what would you recommend i see lots of people running these http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-8226/

would that be ok or should i look for something better?

 

well be careful bc if you pull off the heads and the seals are good (not cracked) you head might be wrapped, why im saying have the heads checked out. and your asking the wrong person on the ignition coil lol. msd is a good brand so its good and unless you have mods to the motor anything above stock is good really. but ya have fun and good luck saturday.

 

well i tried it and the engine was good the heads are not messed up that i know of and the blue smoke was from oil on the manifolds. now i have blue smoke coming from the back of the block. was running fine then stalled and wouldnt start the fuel pump is working and i can here it im just not getting gas to the throttle body. this car is just an ***

 

lol ya my 88 was the same. lets see i assume you replaced all gaskets so im not really sure what the smoke fromt he back would be, unless a head is bad, pull the plugs again and see if the back ones have oil on them again. and as for no gas getting to the thorrle body well that means that the lines are blocked/pinched/not hooked up right. assume you did hook them back up right i would say check the fuel filter (also assume theres gas in the tank lol) i would just check all the fuel lines and replace the fuel filter and if theres still no gas to the throttle body well then im not sure what that would be eighter.

 

all the lines should be hooked up right only thing i undid was the line to tb and where is the fuel filter i couldnt find that ***. the spark plugs are a pain to get to and i hope there is gas in the tank i put 7 gallons of 93 in there

 

ya tell em bout it i got to replace mine. and the fuel filter for the TBI systems is umm...well lets see here on the tpi/mpfi its under the driver side door area really easy to get to(looks like a can on the fuel lines in case u didnt now) but on the carbs its on the carb wherwe the fuel line goes into the carb(the lines goes into a big nut kinda deal, u can see where u put a wrench and how it comes off from the carb).

o when i went to the parts store to get a fuel filter they gave me the can thing so my guess is its on the driver side under neath towards the back.(i have tbi to)

 

do you think that running 87 and then switching to 93 could have killed the fuel filter?

 

no way, if u have trhe owners manual u could read in there (like i did) and see that the rs camaros witht he standard 305 where built to use 87 n up, the 305 HO and 350 in the z28 we built to use 89 n up. higher the octance number the better the gas is, if anything it is helping it.
however if no one has changed the fuel filter since it was built it very well could be clogged, bc well the lower the octane the more "stuff" the fuel filter catches.

you sure no fuel is getting to the throttle body? disconnect the line and turn the key to try and start it, if gas is coming out then i can almost garuntee its your coil pack and/or control module (like mine was)

 

305's with TBI have fast burn heads , they dont need higher than 87 octane, higher octane burns slower thus resulting in an incomplete burn . so really you should only run 87 . also these cars wont let the Fuel pump work if theres not enough oil pressure , there is a oil pressure sensor " i think thats what its called " on the rear drivers side of your intake manifold make sure its on there tight and make sure the cable isnt broken.

 

umm im pretty sure high octane burns the same, just less carbon so its cleaner, and hotter i think. but the oil pressure switch makes since.

 

yeah i checked it every way i could think of. i pulled the injector fuses and replaced i got nothing. i pulled line and cranked it there was no fuel coming out of the lines

 

and when u turn the key to on u can breaify hear the fuel pump kick on for like 2-3 seconds i think it is? bc if u do then i dont think itll be the oil pressure switch but instead something clooged in the line, hopefully fuel filter.

 

yes i can here the fuel pump run for like 3 seconds when i turn key. my friend is convinced that the fuel pump is located in the front on block and i told him that its an electric in tank pump. but maybe tuesday i can get to the parts store and buy a fuel filter

 

ur freind is use to carb motors then. lol inform him that tbi has injectors, which are controlled by the computer which needs to control the amount of fuel, thus in tank electric pump.

 

idk i think i got ripped off when i bought this damn thing. but i will let you know what happens when i change the fuel filter

 

hey man keeping you updated. my old 305 took a dump on me. so i found a 355 tpi cammed so im putting that in after a rebuild. turns out the 305 had a backfire through carb which did happen and it cracked the intake and heads. i believe it because the hood is bent up where the fire blew out