pushrod and roller rocker questions
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pushrod and roller rocker questions
First question: I have a '91 Vette L98 with the factory aluminum heads. They have guide plates, so that means the rockers are NOT self aligning, correct? If so, can I use roller rockers that say they're intended for SBCs up to '87? Iron headed engines went to SA rockers in '87, right (except the vette ones)? Who makes some not too expensive steel roller rockers? My car's driven daily so I dont' want to get aluminum ones.
Second question: Back in March, I had to replace my pushrods, I got these chromemoly ones:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=6393
I only now realized that they say "The pushrods are heat treated for use with guideplates" and that they're not 'hardened steel' which is what everyone says you need when using guide plates. I just want to make sure these are ok for my engine.
Second question: Back in March, I had to replace my pushrods, I got these chromemoly ones:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=6393
I only now realized that they say "The pushrods are heat treated for use with guideplates" and that they're not 'hardened steel' which is what everyone says you need when using guide plates. I just want to make sure these are ok for my engine.
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Re: roller rockers
Originally posted by radiateu2
try enginekits.com give them a call very reasonable
try enginekits.com give them a call very reasonable
man i wish i had 200 bones to spare at the moment, maybe they'll go on sale again when i have the cash
hey Ukraine
they are on sale thru Dec maybe for x-mas hah lol your welcome they have quality stuff too. I bought all my engine stuff there. all the parts for a 305 to rebuild was less than 200 dollars I rebuilt my motor for 350 including machine work.
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pushrods are fine....and whats the prob with using aluminum roller rockers for everyday use? you wont see a problem with them. they'll last forever. i used a set of crane golds on my transam for more than a year...
look in summit or jegs..they have very reasonably priced 1.5 and 1.6 roller rockers for under 200 bucks some of them are as low as 130
look in summit or jegs..they have very reasonably priced 1.5 and 1.6 roller rockers for under 200 bucks some of them are as low as 130
al rockers
Although I have never used them and never will. The aluminum rockers are inherantly weaker and several people on this board have used them with breakage under even normal conditions. Jegs and Summit doesnt always sell just quality items. That is my opinion though. Dont get caught up in the names of these places and sometimes you can get better deals somewhere else like enginekits.com and northern autoparts or even PAW
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The more common aluminum rockers should be just fine for a daily driver. Just so your daily drive isn't WOT all the way! But if you want the steel ones, those look to be pretty decent.
As for the pushrods, they're fine. Steal is hardened by heat treating it. I would say that the rods you have are hard enough fo street use.
I should add this: Make sure to get a quality rocker. THe cheaper ones are prone to breakage, etc... Also, the cheaper ones are usually less accurate on the amount of lift the provide at the valve. Myself, I'll be using the GMPP 1.6 aluminum roller rockers. I got a pretty good deal on a set on Ebay.
As for the pushrods, they're fine. Steal is hardened by heat treating it. I would say that the rods you have are hard enough fo street use.
I should add this: Make sure to get a quality rocker. THe cheaper ones are prone to breakage, etc... Also, the cheaper ones are usually less accurate on the amount of lift the provide at the valve. Myself, I'll be using the GMPP 1.6 aluminum roller rockers. I got a pretty good deal on a set on Ebay.
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You deifnately DON't want the guide plates in there if you use the self aligning rockers, so, in a word, YES.
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that page for the roller rockers that are on sale is still up so maybe they still have them for that price, i forgot to ask when i called. but in their new catalog they have some other stainless rockers for $199. there's no picture but the guy on the phone said they're forged from 4130 stainless and they haven't had any complaints about them. he said they're made by an aftermarket company called CAP. page 13: http://www.enginekits.com/catalog.pdf
think those'll be good?
that page for the roller rockers that are on sale is still up so maybe they still have them for that price, i forgot to ask when i called. but in their new catalog they have some other stainless rockers for $199. there's no picture but the guy on the phone said they're forged from 4130 stainless and they haven't had any complaints about them. he said they're made by an aftermarket company called CAP. page 13: http://www.enginekits.com/catalog.pdf
think those'll be good?
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If they're what I've been seeing everywhere else at that price, they're "CAT" brand... Cal Auto Tech. Made in China.
Beyond that, I know nothing about them, and have never used or even seen them in the flesh.
Draw your own conclusions.
Beyond that, I know nothing about them, and have never used or even seen them in the flesh.
Draw your own conclusions.
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are you referring to the stamped roller tipped ones? are they susceptible to flex like the factory stamped ones or would there actually be an improvement?
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Comp Cams 1318-16 Comp Cams Pro Magnum Roller Rockers™, 1.6 Ratio, Roller Tip, Self Aligning, Long Slot. For 1988-up with self-aligning rockers and 3/8” stud.
$220.00 ea
Ordered 2 sets at this price.....was this a good deal?
$220.00 ea
Ordered 2 sets at this price.....was this a good deal?
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Originally posted by DM91RS
Comp Cams 1318-16 Comp Cams Pro Magnum Roller Rockers™, 1.6 Ratio, Roller Tip, Self Aligning, Long Slot. For 1988-up with self-aligning rockers and 3/8” stud.
$220.00 ea
Ordered 2 sets at this price.....was this a good deal?
Comp Cams 1318-16 Comp Cams Pro Magnum Roller Rockers™, 1.6 Ratio, Roller Tip, Self Aligning, Long Slot. For 1988-up with self-aligning rockers and 3/8” stud.
$220.00 ea
Ordered 2 sets at this price.....was this a good deal?
that is $110 cheaper than anywhere i have seen.....
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Re: pushrod and roller rocker questions
Originally posted by Ukraine Train
First question: I have a '91 Vette L98 with the factory aluminum heads. They have guide plates, so that means the rockers are NOT self aligning, correct? If so, can I use roller rockers that say they're intended for SBCs up to '87? Iron headed engines went to SA rockers in '87, right (except the vette ones)? Who makes some not too expensive steel roller rockers? My car's driven daily so I dont' want to get aluminum ones.
First question: I have a '91 Vette L98 with the factory aluminum heads. They have guide plates, so that means the rockers are NOT self aligning, correct? If so, can I use roller rockers that say they're intended for SBCs up to '87? Iron headed engines went to SA rockers in '87, right (except the vette ones)? Who makes some not too expensive steel roller rockers? My car's driven daily so I dont' want to get aluminum ones.
Second question: Back in March, I had to replace my pushrods, I got these chromemoly ones:
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=6393
I only now realized that they say "The pushrods are heat treated for use with guideplates" and that they're not 'hardened steel' which is what everyone says you need when using guide plates. I just want to make sure these are ok for my engine.
http://store.summitracing.com/partdetail.asp?part=6393
I only now realized that they say "The pushrods are heat treated for use with guideplates" and that they're not 'hardened steel' which is what everyone says you need when using guide plates. I just want to make sure these are ok for my engine.
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Originally posted by scottland
where did you get them from?
that is $110 cheaper than anywhere i have seen.....
where did you get them from?
that is $110 cheaper than anywhere i have seen.....
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Originally posted by 25THRSS
I just did a search on those and the price comes up as $268.22. How did you get em for $220? That is a killer price. Care to sell me the other set?
I just did a search on those and the price comes up as $268.22. How did you get em for $220? That is a killer price. Care to sell me the other set?
Oh..and I'm using both sets on engines.
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