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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 06:37 PM
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will a magnet effect a vats key?

well topic says it all.. my key was stuck to a magnet, now car wont crank.. is it another problem all togather or did the magnet fu*k up my vats key?
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 08:49 PM
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A magnet will not hurt the key. The "chip" in the key is nothing more than a small resistor. It has a set resistance and is not affected by magnetism.
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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 09:41 PM
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If your car wont crank its worth a shot to try a different key. Those resistors get worn over time (i think) and start to give a different resistance. Also the key(s) are sensitive to water...so dont get them wet!! Cant promise this will fix your car..but its a starting point. Good luck!

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Old Aug 8, 2003 | 09:49 PM
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If the VATS system shuts you down, the security light will come on. Then you have to let it sit for 5 mins to reset.
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 11:06 PM
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Your key was stuck to a magnet? Where did you find a brass magnet? Most factory keys are nickel plated brass. Even most replacement keys are brass, except for some really cheap ones that are aliminum blanks. I doubt that anyone would bother to manufacture a VATS key blank and use aluminum or steel as the blank material.
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Old Aug 9, 2003 | 11:49 PM
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As someone already stated the VATS key is simply a resistor. If it gets wet sometimes it will change the resistance and won't start until it dries out but a magnet has no effect on a piece of carbon and brass!
Also, keep those VATS keys clean.
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Old Aug 10, 2003 | 02:00 PM
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Originally posted by Merlin
Your key was stuck to a magnet? Where did you find a brass magnet? Most factory keys are nickel plated brass. Even most replacement keys are brass, except for some really cheap ones that are aliminum blanks. I doubt that anyone would bother to manufacture a VATS key blank and use aluminum or steel as the blank material.

i dont have a orignal GM key, but my key sticks to a magnet... *shrug*

i donno what its made out of, but i would assume steel since its magnetic.
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Old Aug 11, 2003 | 11:27 PM
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Re: will a magnet effect a vats key?

Originally posted by 89RsPower!
well topic says it all.. my key was stuck to a magnet, now car wont crank.. is it another problem all togather or did the magnet fu*k up my vats key?
The magnet may very well have jacked your key; those keys also contain a microchip that is programmed with binary data that the ECM can understand. If a sufficiently strong magnetic field is applied to this data, it will be scrambled and thus useless. The car will not crank.

This happened to me after I had a MRI (Magnetic Resonance Image) procedure and forgot to take my keys out of my pocket. The car ('92 Camaro RS at the time) fired right up before the MRI and wouldn't crank afterwards. I had a spare set of keys in the car - the spare fired the car right up without hesitation. The key that went through the MRI never started the car again, but the spare always worked and I never had any VATS work done.

My guess is that if you have a spare (or get a new key made) your car will fire right up.

Conclusion: A magnetic field <b>will</b> render these keys useless if it is strong enough. Just my $.02.


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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 01:58 AM
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And in conclusion you made yourself look like a TOTAL idiot by not reading the rest of replies in this post! LMAO !!

those keys also contain a microchip that is programmed with binary data that the ECM can understand

Bwhahahahaha!!! Talk about "talking out of your ***" !!
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 07:10 AM
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Re: Re: will a magnet effect a vats key?

Originally posted by 89-TPI-ROC
those keys also contain a microchip

:sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol: :sillylol:

Once again misinformation pervades the board!
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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just like to add..


1... there is no "microchip"

and a MRI has a strong enough magnetic field that it can pull a metal shaving THRU your head.. deff strounf enough that you dont want to fugg with it.

my only thought on that could be the magnetic field pulled at the thin wire traces between the resistor and the outside contacts of the key...


in anycase, there is no chip in there.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by Odyssey
And in conclusion you made yourself look like a TOTAL idiot by not reading the rest of replies in this post! LMAO !!

Bwhahahahaha!!! Talk about "talking out of your ***" !!
Congratulations to yourself and novass for proving yourselves as juvenile asses instead of offering some constructive correction. People like you make it difficult for newcomers to make statements and/or ask questions.

MrDude_1, thanks for not flaming (out loud, anyway) and giving <b>some</b> credence to parts of my statement; I appreciate that.


-Ray
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 02:32 PM
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Are the outer contacts steel and not copper? The outer contacts might've gotten magnetized, and "repelled" the contacts inside the ignition switch? Just another WAG on why the magnetized key might not work...? But I'd think those metal contacts on the outside of the resistor chip are too small to repel anything... so nevermind.
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Old Aug 12, 2003 | 11:33 PM
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Originally posted by 89-TPI-ROC
Congratulations to yourself and novass for proving yourselves as juvenile asses instead of offering some constructive correction. People like you make it difficult for newcomers to make statements and/or ask questions.

MrDude_1, thanks for not flaming (out loud, anyway) and giving <b>some</b> credence to parts of my statement; I appreciate that.


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Well next time, knowing you're a "newcomer", maybe you should NOT give out FALSE information to the thousand of people that will probably read this post. What made us react this way is the way you so confidently stated it. Next time READ everything else in the post before you proceed to make yourself look like a dumbass. That's all I wanted to tell ya
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