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Old Aug 18, 2003 | 11:15 PM
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Stupid valve locks won't come off!!!

This is my first time disassembling a set of heads. I'm gonna take everything apart to clean it all up, and then replace the 18 year old valve seals. I got to work last night on the heads, put the compressor over the first spring, tapped it gently with the back of a screwdriver when the spring was compressed, and the valve locks came out without any problems. I move on to the next valve, and I can't get the keepers off at all. I tried three more valves after that one, and I can't the keepers to separate from the retainer so I can get them out. I've tried spraying them with wd40 hoping that might help a bit, but still nothing. I read that you can actually hear when the keepers separate from the retainer by the sound it makes when you tap on them with something. I noticed the difference on the ones I've tried to remove, but they still won't come off. Is there anything I am overlooking?
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Old Aug 18, 2003 | 11:39 PM
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Re: Stupid valve locks won't come off!!!

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I got to work last night on the heads, put the compressor over the first spring, tapped it gently with the back of a screwdriver when the spring was compressed............but they still won't come off. Is there anything I am overlooking?
Yes. BEFORE you put on the compressor, place a block of wood under the valves to hold them in the seats (combustion chamber side), then tap the retainer with a light hammer. Don't tap the valve stem. Tap the retainer.

I guess it may take a little more than a "tap", but you get the idea.
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 12:05 AM
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Take a large socket and place it over the retainer and give it a good whack or two, they should fall right out then. Just be careful not to miss the socket and hit your fingers, it just smashing a couple fingers against a stud with a big hammer.
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 12:21 AM
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Originally posted by kfoley
it just smashing a couple fingers against a stud with a big hammer.
I'm a stud with a big hammer.

But I'm not into that finger smashing stuff.

Sorry.
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 02:27 AM
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Very funny AJ.... I about broke a finger doing that, but looking back it was pretty stupid, not to mention it was probably funny seeing me jump up and down yelling explicitives...
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 04:55 AM
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i have a "special tool" for head tear downs, piece of 3/4" pipe about 6" long with a pipe cap on it. place it on the retainer and hit it with a BFH and everything comes apart. takes only a few minutes to get a set of heads striped to the casting.
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 05:08 PM
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That's a good idea ede, I'll have to make one of those for the next time I tear down a set of heads.
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 05:42 PM
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wouldn't the spring go flying into your face if you just hit it with a hammer? or is there not enough tension on it?
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 06:06 PM
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what happens if you just tap on the valve stem?
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 06:29 PM
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Tapping the valve stem won't loosen the locks, you can loosen the locks by hitting the retainer with a soft hammer and then using a compressor, but I do the same thing ede does, my tool is something I made out of a piece of 6" long 1 1/2" cold roll steel, I just drilled counter bore in the end of it. Place it over the retainer and hit it with a big dead blow hammer and it all comes right apart, works best on stock heads with light duty springs. For heavy racing springs I use a spring compressor.
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Old Aug 19, 2003 | 10:58 PM
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Originally posted by ChevyGuy87
wouldn't the spring go flying into your face if you just hit it with a hammer? or is there not enough tension on it?
No, especially not stock springs, they hardly jump up at all. Besides the tool/socket is sititng over it so it doesn't have anywhere to go really.
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