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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 09:00 PM
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Oil Pump Shaft

well i just borke the tooth of my oil pump shaft. i guess it was weak anyways, since i was just trying to prime my oil system. anyways, what all is involved in changing this shaft out? i am def gonna buy a steel sleeved one. tia
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Old Feb 21, 2004 | 11:20 PM
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Remove the shaft and sleeve, install a replacement. You should be able to do it all from the distributor hole.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 05:59 AM
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Remove the shaft and sleeve, install a replacement. You should be able to do it all from the distributor hole.
Vader, if he gets a steel sleeved one, the sleeve goes on the bottom, so he would need to pull the oil pan and pump to replace
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 06:00 AM
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can't get there from the top side as close as it seems. you need to remove the pan and the oil pump. buy a replacement shaft from arp or melling
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 08:21 AM
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Pep boys carries an all metal shaft including a metal collet. I think it was around $6.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 09:13 AM
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thanks guys, i need to pull the pan anyways to get the tooth that broke off. thanks for the help!!! also, i was just using a homeade tool to prime the oil and was wondering why it wouldnt come up to the heads. it would come out of the oil pressure hole and come out of the dist hole really well. do i need to buy one of those tools to prime it? i just want to make damn sure the whole motor is gettting oiled before i start it. thanks again
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 10:17 AM
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Sorry - my mistake. I guess I should stop playing with small block Fords (hex shaft) and think a little. You'd have a tough time getting this end through the front hole in the bearing saddle:
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 10:41 AM
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If you look at a naked SBC block, you will probably notice that the passage that feeds the right-bank lifters goes RIGHT THROUGH THE MIDDLE of the distributor housing hole; and if you look at a distributor, you'll notice that down near the bottom there are 2 bosses, which more or less seal to the block and complete the passage. Without that, all of this "priming" is useless. That's why there are "priming tools" you can buy. But IMHO it's of questionable value anyway, even in a brand-new motor, as there will be plenty of lube in all the right places if it was built properly.

Here's a pic of a dist with the area in question highlighted.

Incidentally, the oil pump drive shaft part # you want is a Melling IS-55E. It's less than $10 at Auto Zone.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 10:45 AM
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i just wanted to make sure the pump worked correctly, but obviously it is, or oil wouldnt be squirting ou the sending hole. thanks man.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 01:34 PM
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priming the oil system on a SBC is pretty pointless, but it does make a lot of people feel better before they fire a new engine
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 01:37 PM
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now that i need another oil pan gasket, i have another question. i bought felpro ks2600 gasket kit for my motor, but i just want the oil pan gasket now, wich one do i get? they have 2 diff ones. the difference is thick or thin front seal, i am not sure wich one i have. thanks
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 02:22 PM
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is this for your 90?

if so, you need the pan gasket for a 1 piece rear main, i would get the 1 piece pan gasket also
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 02:28 PM
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its a for a pre 86 2 pc seal block. i dont like the one peice gaskets, do you know wich oil pan gasket they put in the ks-2600 kit?
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 02:53 PM
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i belive the ks2600 comes with the multipeice cork/rubber gasket, and it comes with both the thick and thin end seal
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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also, unless you are running a early front cover(pre 68 ish), you need the thick front seal
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:00 PM
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so basically i need the oil pan gasket for the thick front seal?
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:03 PM
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my summit says 75-79 thick and 57-74 thin. this a target/goodwrench pre 86 2pc block made i mexico, it doesnt say what year it was made. the only things i replaced on the bottom end were the front rubber seal (black) that goes into the bottom of the timing cover and the seal that goes on the rear. the kit had two blue different size bearing seals but i didnt need them. i was just checking the motor out before i put it in my car. i beleive the rubber seals will be fine and i just need the cork gasket that came in the ks2600 kit.

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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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anyone???
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 04:17 PM
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That depends on the oil pan, not the block, and not the timing cover. Blocks and timing covers are all the same in that respect, oil pans changed. You'll need to see what pan you have.

Odds are, if the pan either came on the motor or came with your car, it will use the thick gasket; but that's not definite. You'll have to look to make sure.
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Old Feb 22, 2004 | 06:31 PM
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the pan was on the motor that i bought, would i just be better off buying another gasket set? at least i will have some spares left over. i dont know how to tell the difference in what i need. thanks man.
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