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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 10:49 PM
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Ignition stuck in ON position...help!

85 Trans am
stock carbed 305 if it matters any..

Ignition is stuck in forward position, it did it once before and came back after playing with it for a while, but now its stuck for good

Before i start ripping the steering column apart, i was hoping you guys would have an idea of what this could be, hopefully its something small and cheap

thanks a lot guys...
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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Here's a couple of areas to look.
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Old Apr 17, 2004 | 11:21 PM
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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 11:36 AM
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lol...QAtransam...i have exact the same problem man....on my 92 bird...my dad came home from the store and said the car wont shut off (at the same time my a/c went down for some reason) im i was like WTF?!!! so i tried to shut it off but i couldnt so i had to disconnect the coil in order for it to shut down...then like you said i played with it for a bit and it snapped back to its original position (before it looked like it was overturned) then it happened again and at this time it doesnt want to go back so i dont know what caused it
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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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Originally posted by Trickster
Here's a couple of areas to look.
Thanks a lot man...hopefully this helps me figure it out
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Old Apr 18, 2004 | 12:56 PM
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Originally posted by SNIPING92BIRD
lol...QAtransam...i have exact the same problem man....on my 92 bird...my dad came home from the store and said the car wont shut off (at the same time my a/c went down for some reason) im i was like WTF?!!! so i tried to shut it off but i couldnt so i had to disconnect the coil in order for it to shut down...then like you said i played with it for a bit and it snapped back to its original position (before it looked like it was overturned) then it happened again and at this time it doesnt want to go back so i dont know what caused it
Yea it sucks...use the pictures above and lets try to figure it out, our problems seem to be exactly a like.

Good luck, let me know how you're doin with that, i'll do the same....
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 08:51 PM
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Ok excuse me for being a total idiot...

But without breaking anything, how do i get the plastic behind the steering wheel, that covers the column OFF?!?!

i see where the seperations are, but i dont want to make it worse, by breaking anything else.

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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 09:05 PM
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By plastic piece behind the steering wheel, do you mean the bowl plate (item 127 in the picture) or the round plastic piece underneath the steering wheel?
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 09:09 PM
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no no not the bowl plate, the actual casing around the column, the part i need to get into...

thanks for all your help man
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 09:17 PM
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Do you have a tilt or standard steering wheel.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 09:19 PM
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Originally posted by Trickster
Do you have a tilt or standard steering wheel.
Tilt
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 09:20 PM
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OTAY,

Get back to you shortly with the info
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 09:24 PM
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Originally posted by Trickster
OTAY,

Get back to you shortly with the info
Thanks a lot man :hail:
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 10:04 PM
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Okay,
I'm back, had a bad case of the munchies. Let me get this straight so I don't send you a lot of probably useful but irrelevant information. You want to take the plastic cover behind the steering wheel off, correct? This is the piece that has the lock cylinder, hazard button, and turn signal lever right or the piece behind that.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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Originally posted by Trickster
Okay,
I'm back, had a bad case of the munchies. Let me get this straight so I don't send you a lot of probably useful but irrelevant information. You want to take the plastic cover behind the steering wheel off, correct? This is the piece that has the lock cylinder, hazard button, and turn signal lever right or the piece behind that.
Yes sir...

However, after researching a little bit, it looks like that may be impossible without breaking...it looks like i need some type of tool that...i dont have of course to pull the lock plate off. I think from this point on...i have to work inside this plastic piece.

I guess i could buy the tool, but that sucks for a one time usage type thing i wonder if i can just rent it from somewhere...

This car is in restoration mode, but i really wanna get this taken care of...

let me know what you think man
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 10:26 PM
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Okay boys & girls,
Are you ready for this, I know it may look hard but it is easier than it looks. So hang on to your patoootie. BTW, the tool for removing the lock plate is rather in-exspensive and well worth the money.
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 10:27 PM
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 10:28 PM
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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Great stuff man...

one thing....

The root of this problem is almost positively the lock cylinder right?

so all i have to do is get in there far enough remove the screw that holds the lock cylinder in place, and just replace the cylinder ?

seems easy enough, i'll go see about the tool tomorrow

thanks again

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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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Did I overwhelm you with info or what!!:lala: :lala:
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Old Apr 21, 2004 | 11:24 PM
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Did I overwhelm you with info or what!!:lala: :lala:
Dude i can't thank you enough

now its up to me to figure out whats wrong...

but theres no way not too...you've covered everything man.


thanks again! :hail: :hail:
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