ok, i was using a gear puller to pull the timing chain crank gear off the crank.
i didnt notice any damage to the rotating tip of the puller, but apparently, it was damaged. the soft metal (im assuming alum) tip of the gear puller pressed itself into my crank... deep into my crank, i really should have noticed it sooner, but i didnt.

so when you look in my crank, i have a nice small piece of metal.

i took a big drill bit, the size of the crank hole, and used it to make a indentation in the center. i then took a small bit and made a hole.... i dont have a easy out that size, athough it might work for this....

i just need some ideas.... otherwise im going to have to take it to the machine shop... and that would be kind of a hardship since id have to bug one friend for his engine hoist, another for his truck, take time off work to goto the shop... and possibly disassemble the shortblock.

 

i cant do anything about the blur... cheap barrowed digicam..

should show you the idea though.

 

That's the first thing I'd try.....and anything else before having to pull the engine!!

Good luck with it!

 

try using 1or 2 dentist's pick tool(s) to unscrew it out of the hole.

 

its on a stand.... that makes it a LITTLE easier.

still, my record with easy outs speak for themself... plus, if you bust a easy out in it, no machine shop around here will touch it.

tried that. its pressed in way too tight.

 

I'd try drilling it with progressively larger bits, until you get to one that's the same size as the inner diameter of that size nut (7/16"-20). Then tap it real carefully.

I don't trust those stupid tools. I always put a short bolt of that size in there, just screw it down hand tight, and let the tool work against the bolt head. Haven't screwed a single one up since I started doing it that way.

 

This is what a repair shop would probably do.
Fill it with penetrating oil and let it sit. Then you could heat it up once or twice. Soak it again. If the hole you made is not drilled too big and you are REAL carefull you can drill it bigger and bigger directly in the center (keep the bit oiled while you work) till there is verry little of it left. DONT hit the crank threads, but that goes without saying. Then use a tap to clean the junk out.

Good luck,
Paitence pays off..... sometimes

EASY OUTS SUCK!!!

 

If it's not in to deep, what about tapping the hole you already made and threading a bolt into that? Then use the bolt to pull the chunk out. Just an idea...

Whatever you try, good luck

 

i think im going to try that first.

 

I'd go with onebinkys idea first.
Just thread a bolt on there and use a claw hammer to pull it out.
Since it was pressed in it ought to pull out.
If that idea fails, then you can go to RBs idea of drilling it out til you can run an original size tap in the hole.
One other suggestion, be careful about using heat on that, or you'll be needing a new front seal.

 

there isnt any seal, the cover is off there

but yea, im actually kicking myself wondering why i didnt think of tapping it and using a bolt to pull it out.

i want to have this motor assembled and ready to go in the car by friday.. and i only have a couple hours to do it.. (between 6 and 8 all this week)

 

I forget off hand what size that hole is, but go find yourself a left hand drill bit just under that size. Drill it out using that bit being careful to miss the threads. Normally at some point the bit will grab the aluminum and it will thread itself out of the hole. I don't like using easy outs because they can expand the aluminum into the threads and make it tighter. It can also break which really sucks. The left hand bit has never failed me yet.
One other thing an old timer showed me about the crank gear. Instead of using a puller try this. Find the gear tooth that lines up with the crank key. Place a chisel punch on that tooth and hit it with a hammer. The gear will instantly crack at that stress point and you can just pull it off, no big deal. And you don't have to hit it that hard either.

 

Man the threads are f****d anyway..just get a helicoil set and drill it out and install the helicoil now...that`s what your going to end up doing anyway..unless you replace the crank. I know a lot of others will say it ain`t right but that`s your only solution that WILL work, I had a bad crank for my 454 that had the same deal..I heli coiled it over seven years ago..It has now been in two blocks and had over seven camshaft changes in the car(3rd gen) no problems at all ...and uh 80 ft lbs torque every time.

 

He said it was soft metal that was in the hole, maybe aluminum, if he can remove the metal and run a tap through it to clean up the original threads he'll be fine. Otherwise, I agree, heli-coils work pretty good (they're even mil-spec) There's also a product called thread-sert that works too.