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Old Jul 7, 2001 | 05:32 PM
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My oil pressure is too low, why?

I know that at 2000 RPM it should be at about 55 psi, well, it's down between 35-40 psi after the engine is warmed up. And, when its at idle speed at a stop light or whatever, its all the way down to the red line, what might be causing this?
It used to be great, right up where it used to be, but after I installed my cam, its been down really low, the cam wouldn't effect this, would it? Anyway, any ideas you may have are welcome, thanks!


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Old Jul 7, 2001 | 05:44 PM
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I would think that is great oil pressure, especially after the engine warms up. I'm usually at 25psi at 2000rpm.

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Old Jul 7, 2001 | 11:36 PM
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The Chiltons says it needs to be at 55 PSI at 2000 so I am juts going off that, but maybe it is ok.....

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L98 TPI 350 (5.7L)
TH 700R-4 Transmission
Borg Warner 7.75" 9 Bolt Rear End with 2.77:1 Gears.

Current Mods: LT4 HOT Cam, Comp Cams 1.52:1 Roller Rocker Arms, Edelbrock TES 1 5/8" Headers, Catco 3" High-Flow Catalytic Converter, Hooker 3" Aerochamber Cat-Back System, Transgo Shift Kit, Performance Resource Chip, Accel Ignition, K&N Filters, JET TPI Air Foil, All Free Mods, Falken ZIEX Z-Rated Tires.

Best ET: 14.32 @ 97.7mph
(corrected for elevation)
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Old Jul 7, 2001 | 11:50 PM
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"it's down between 35-40 psi after the engine is warmed up"

I Looked at a mint IROC That was a steal! And it had the same oil pressure and my dad told me not to buy it
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Old Jul 8, 2001 | 09:41 AM
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First, an SBC will make less oil pressure as it gets older, plain and simple. This is because the bearings have more "wear".

But Chevy's have very efficient oiling systems. The minimum oil pressure required per my GM Shop Manual is 7 psi @ Idle and 20 psi @ 2,000 rpm. Sounds like you are within tolerance.

But, to be sure, change the oil pressure sensor. This may help as they do become less accurate as they get older.

Lastly, the oil pressure guage on these cars are not them most accurate. Only a true oil pressure guage should be relied upon.

[This message has been edited by Glenn91L98GTA (edited July 08, 2001).]
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Old Jul 8, 2001 | 12:19 PM
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Glenn is right about the oil pressure gauges... the factory treats them as "interior trim options", not as any kind of accurate instrumentation. Take one apart some time and look at how it's built; then look at how a real instrument like a Simpson 260 or something is made, I think you'll notice a slight difference.

Change the oil pressure sender though. While the gauge system doesn't have any kind of reliable absolute accuracy, any time it changes, it's cause for concern. Make sure the gauge works right. Then if it turns out that the oil pressure really has dropped that much, you know it's time to start saving up for a new short block.

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Old Jul 8, 2001 | 01:17 PM
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General rule of thumb....

You need 10psi of oil press. for every 1000rpms. So at idle its ok to get 5-6psi, as long as the guage is steady and not bouncing all over. If it does bounce, the spring in the oil pump may be wearing out. Also, listen for knocks when the engine is cold (not been started yet that day).
If you hear the slightest bit of knock, then the bearings' days are numbered.




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Old Jul 8, 2001 | 01:39 PM
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To answer your orginal question, Dan: Yes, the cam can affect oil pressure. The cam bearing to cam clearance is a prime player in oil pressure. If you scratched a bearing or (not likely) bumped a bearing out of place removing the old cam or installing the new one, or the cam journals are not the correct size (again not likely), then you could adversely affect your oil pressure.

The other possibility is that it has gotten warmer outside since you changed your cam. Or, you changed oil viscosity since changing the cam. Oil diluted with gas would also drop the pressure.

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Old Jul 8, 2001 | 10:52 PM
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Okay, thanks a lot guys. I usually use Mobil 1 synthetic 10W-30 oil, if I use a different oil, will it help? Which oil, or viscosity, would you guys recomend? What does a new oil pressure sender cost?

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1987 Chevy Camaro IROC-Z
L98 TPI 350 (5.7L)
TH 700R-4 Transmission
Borg Warner 7.75" 9 Bolt Rear End with 2.77:1 Gears.

Current Mods: LT4 HOT Cam, Comp Cams 1.52:1 Roller Rocker Arms, Edelbrock TES 1 5/8" Headers, Catco 3" High-Flow Catalytic Converter, Hooker 3" Aerochamber Cat-Back System, Transgo Shift Kit, Performance Resource Chip, Accel Ignition, K&N Filters, JET TPI Air Foil, All Free Mods, Falken ZIEX Z-Rated Tires.

Best ET: 14.32 @ 97.7mph
(corrected for elevation)
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Old Jul 8, 2001 | 11:27 PM
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An oil pressure sensor can be anywhere from $20-$35 depending on how much your local parts store marks them up. you will need a special socket which is around $5-$10.
Installation is very easy.

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Old Jul 9, 2001 | 10:32 PM
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Where is the sender located?

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1987 Chevy Camaro IROC-Z
L98 TPI 350 (5.7L)
TH 700R-4 Transmission
Borg Warner 7.75" 9 Bolt Rear End with 2.77:1 Gears.

Current Mods: LT4 HOT Cam, Comp Cams 1.52:1 Roller Rocker Arms, Edelbrock TES 1 5/8" Headers, Catco 3" High-Flow Catalytic Converter, Hooker 3" Aerochamber Cat-Back System, Transgo Shift Kit, Performance Resource Chip, Accel Ignition, K&N Filters, JET TPI Air Foil, All Free Mods, Falken ZIEX Z-Rated Tires.

Best ET: 14.32 @ 97.7mph
(corrected for elevation)
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Old Jul 9, 2001 | 11:13 PM
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Back of the engine bay, close to the firewall, near the back of the driver side rocker cover. It is screwed into a brass pipe system that screws into the block right on the block surface where the back of the intake seals against the block. It is a fairly big, brass colored, round unit that has a one blade connector on the end of it.

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Old Jul 10, 2001 | 12:29 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by IROC5.7TPI:
General rule of thumb....

Also, listen for knocks when the engine is cold (not been started yet that day).
If you hear the slightest bit of knock, then the bearings' days are numbered.

Lots of the time it is piston slap when it is cold. Lots of small block Chevs will knock when cold for just this reason and still run for many, many miles because it is a "normal" engine phenomenon and nothing to worry about.

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