"Old timers"...What's wrong w/the "short" water pump?
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"Old timers"...What's wrong w/the "short" water pump?
Why did Chevy only use this design early on? It takes up less space w/the "short" pump and "short" pullies to match.
What is the disadvantage to it...if any?
What is the disadvantage to it...if any?
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It doesn't have accessory mounting holes. It takes up less space in front of the engine, but takes up more space on the sides.
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From: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
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Cars got it to 1968, trucks to 1972 and Corvettes to 1970. The Corvette kept the short pump after that until 1982, but with a larger pilot shaft.
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As said no accessory mounting bosses. And the rest of the pulley don't align real well.
But it can be done i have an aluminum weiand SWP on my Camaro. All it takes is a little custom bracket fabrication, which i needed to do anyway.
But it can be done i have an aluminum weiand SWP on my Camaro. All it takes is a little custom bracket fabrication, which i needed to do anyway.
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not to mention that the p/s brackets are a major pain in the ***,and with the long,flimsy alt. bracket,they can be bad about slinging belts at higher rpms
They were used on v8 monzas. As I recall the monza pulleys overdrive the pump approx 40%. Thats pretty high overdrive, I always wondered if the pump didn't move as much water as a long pump.
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Originally posted by chesterfield
They were used on v8 monzas. As I recall the monza pulleys overdrive the pump approx 40%. Thats pretty high overdrive, I always wondered if the pump didn't move as much water as a long pump.
They were used on v8 monzas. As I recall the monza pulleys overdrive the pump approx 40%. Thats pretty high overdrive, I always wondered if the pump didn't move as much water as a long pump.
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From: Mercedes Norte, Heredia, Costa Rica
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I doubt there is a difference. Only the exterior castings are different. Internally they're pretty much the same.
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Yes the C-3 vettes still used the short water pump and yes I do have belt slinging problems when I rev up past 6000 rpm. I will be doing a serpentine conversion soon.
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