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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 10:14 PM
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socket for headbolt too big. help?

Installing my edelbrock heads, one of the corner nuts (im running studs) threads on fine but my socket is too big to fit over the nut, the casting of the head did not give me enough room to get a socket down there. anyone run into this before? I've tried my all trade 6 point and craftsman 12point socket
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 10:43 PM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

Try a 12 point nut? Which Edelbrock heads do you have?
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 10:45 PM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

I have the victor jr's.
the nuts are what came with my ARP stud kit.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 10:48 PM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

A 12 point nut would let you use a smaller socket. I don't know if they sell them separately, might want to contact ARP and ask.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 10:52 PM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

Take the head off and grind a bit of clearance?
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 10:57 PM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

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A 12 point nut would let you use a smaller socket. I don't know if they sell them separately, might want to contact ARP and ask.
wouldn't the outside diameter of the socket still be the same?
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 11:03 PM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

No, the nut will be the same diameter, but the socket will be smaller.
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 11:07 PM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

Like i said in my original post I tried a 6 and 12 point socket, both 5/8's and both too big?
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Old Feb 4, 2008 | 11:13 PM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

Right, because you've got 6 point nuts. 134-4001, right? You need a 12 point nut in the corners.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 10:46 AM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

A 12 pt nut might require a 9/16 socket instead of the 5/8" socket. I would go to your favorite nut & bolt store and see if they have a smaller nut (12 pt or even 6 pt) having the same stud thread.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 06:42 PM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

Are you using 1/2 drive sockets or 3/8 ? Impact sockets or chrome?

I think the thinnest wall socket is 3/8 chrome.
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 08:13 PM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

just a 3/8 chrome...
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 08:34 PM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

hey traviz, go to sears ,they have thin wall sockets just for tight places like this. what aperion is saying is they make nuts that have the same size hole in the center,but a smaller size on the outside, this way you can use a smaller socket.later jimmy
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 08:35 PM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

Thank you for the tip and the clarification 1fastam. I did look around today at a few places, but seems 12 point nuts don't exist. I will check out sears tomorrow for this awesome socket
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 09:39 PM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

tthe sears number for the socket is sears item #00943314000,model#43314. price $3.99 hth ,later jimmy
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Old Feb 5, 2008 | 11:40 PM
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Re: socket for headbolt too big. help?

I had the same problem with my AFR Heads and with arp 12 point 1/2 inch socket head.

I was using sears 3/8 drive socket and it was binding on the valve spring shims on the corner bolt up front.

I turned the socket down about .030 and it fit fine.
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