Running Rich
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From: Elizabethtown,Ky
Car: 1984 camaro z28
Engine: L69 H.O
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Running Rich
i have a 1984 camaro with the 305 H.O. motor it seems to be running super rich if u stand behind it and smell the exhuast it makes your eyes water also there seems to be a mixture of condensation and raw gas coming out of the tail pipes what could be causing this i dont know exactly what the timing is set at my dad set it by hand when we put the engine back together could that be the problem it runs great just smells rich and horrible gas milage
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Re: Running Rich
also i just noticed that when i shut it off i get a relly faint trail of somke coming out of the exhaust tips for a few mins
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Car: 1982 Trans-Am
Engine: 355 w/ ported 416s
Transmission: T10, hurst shifter
Axle/Gears: 10 bolt, true-trac, 3.73
Re: Running Rich
What carb and distributor are on there? CC or non?
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Transmission: 700r4
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Re: Running Rich
Its all stock so im guessing cc all i have added to the motor is an accel super coil
Re: Running Rich
I am soon going to be known as the "When was the last time it was tuned up" guy.
Sooo ... when was the last time it was tuned up? Fuel Filter, Oil change, Plugs and checked (Wires, Cap, Rotor, Filters, Sensors)
Sooo ... when was the last time it was tuned up? Fuel Filter, Oil change, Plugs and checked (Wires, Cap, Rotor, Filters, Sensors)
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Car: 1984 camaro z28
Engine: L69 H.O
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 3.73
Re: Running Rich
About 3 weeks ago we installed a complete gasket set the plugs, wires ,ignition coil, Oil,and fuel filter have all been changed in the last year
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Re: Running Rich
gasket set? for?
Yea, i'd be inclined to agree that it's either O2 sensor, or tuning. Does your onboard computer work? ever get a check engine light?
If no light, then O2 sensor is probably ok (as long as the bulb is working...) . Then you just go check your carb tuning and ignition setting.
Yea, i'd be inclined to agree that it's either O2 sensor, or tuning. Does your onboard computer work? ever get a check engine light?
If no light, then O2 sensor is probably ok (as long as the bulb is working...) . Then you just go check your carb tuning and ignition setting.
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Transmission: 700r4
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Re: Running Rich
im only 17 so im learning at all this the gasket set was an entire engine set. yes the check engine light will come on randomly for a few seconds but if you rev it up it will go off
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Re: Running Rich
seems to run pretty good all around its a little shakey on idle it idles at 500 at goes to about 550 and back to 500 also if your rev it up then let off it drops below 500 for a quick second stumbles then idles fine
Also what 02 sensor would you suggest i get

Also what 02 sensor would you suggest i get
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Re: Running Rich
Awsome thanks so much for your help i will get that replaced this week and see if it improves
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Re: Running Rich
i have another quick question
when you unplug the 02 sensor should you notice a difference in the engine running?
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Car: 1987 SC/1985 TA
Engine: 350/vortec/fitech
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9-bolt
Re: Running Rich
Check engine light comes on then goes off---this means that the computer is still storing the trouble codes and is sitting there, right now, waiting patiently for you to spend a few minutes and allow it to tell you what the prob is..or at least point you in the right direction. There's a tech article on this site, in, I think, FAQs, that outlines pulling the codes and what each one means. Check it and get back to us. Before randomly purchasing replacement parts.
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Yes you should, provided it's going into open loop. Once it's disconnected the ecm will stop trying to adjust the mixture and the idle will probably smooth out. IF everything else is working fine it will operate using its 'last known good' data. This is not a test of the O2 sensor, however.
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Yes you should, provided it's going into open loop. Once it's disconnected the ecm will stop trying to adjust the mixture and the idle will probably smooth out. IF everything else is working fine it will operate using its 'last known good' data. This is not a test of the O2 sensor, however.
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Engine: 350 tpi
Transmission: 700r4
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Re: Running Rich
there is a nut under your distributor its a 9/16
loosen it you dont need a timing light just read this
move the dissy about a 1/2 inch counter clockwise tighten it down and start it
your timming chain is old and the chain is sagging if you have not replaced it by now you are probably doing damage to your motor
your can get one for 16 bucks but I suggest buying the cheapest double roller for around 30
you will notice a big diff in the all around drivability of your ride
you should also have someone who knows the deal to go through your quadrajet
a rebuild kit is only 25 bucks and make sure it gets soaked for a while- a long while
q-jets dont take to sitting for long periods of time with fuel in them
loosen it you dont need a timing light just read this
move the dissy about a 1/2 inch counter clockwise tighten it down and start it
your timming chain is old and the chain is sagging if you have not replaced it by now you are probably doing damage to your motor
your can get one for 16 bucks but I suggest buying the cheapest double roller for around 30
you will notice a big diff in the all around drivability of your ride
you should also have someone who knows the deal to go through your quadrajet
a rebuild kit is only 25 bucks and make sure it gets soaked for a while- a long while
q-jets dont take to sitting for long periods of time with fuel in them
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Car: 1987 SC/1985 TA
Engine: 350/vortec/fitech
Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 3.27 9-bolt
Re: Running Rich
oooo, don't mess with the dist just yet. timing chain stretch can be an issue as it can retard the cam timing. dist timing can still be set properly by tdc marks though.
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