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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 01:28 AM
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alot of smoke on start up

every single time i start my car hot or cold it smokes alot and want to know if it could be rings and not just valve guides. how can i test for bad rings
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 01:32 AM
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Re: alot of smoke on start up

do a compression check. record the numbers. re-do the compression check on cylinders that have lower than normal numbers with a bit of oil in the combustion chamber, if the numbers go up by adding the oil on the compression check then it has bad rings, if it doesnt go up its a valve train issue.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 01:37 AM
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Re: alot of smoke on start up

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every single time i start my car hot or cold it smokes alot and want to know if it could be rings and not just valve guides. how can i test for bad rings
Get a nice leakdown tester you wont regret it. If you have a fresh tune up and still see that annoying puff of blue than than odds are your valve seals are shot.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 01:48 AM
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Re: alot of smoke on start up

what is a leakdown tester
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 02:03 AM
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Re: alot of smoke on start up

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what is a leakdown tester
You can see how much pressure each cylinder is hold and losing with one.
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 02:19 AM
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Re: alot of smoke on start up

i do have a compression guage what is base or an accaptable range for each cylinder and how long should it hold pressure with that o and should i test cold
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 06:32 AM
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Re: alot of smoke on start up

try the easy stuff first . sounds a lot like valve stem seals . do a search , lots of good/easy methods for replacing them . make sure drain passages at lower front & rear of cylinder heads are not sludged up . if they are oil will not drain back into crankcase as fast as it should . smoke & oil use will result . good luck .
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Old Apr 14, 2009 | 11:42 PM
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Re: alot of smoke on start up

ill change the valve guides this weekend and let you guys know what hapopens the reason im kind of nervouse is most chevys smoke a little on start up when cold mine smokes even if its hot on every start up
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