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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 07:05 PM
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car starts too fast?

is it normal that as soon as i turn the key it fires right up, like i cant even hear it crank. could this be caused by incorrect timing ? another symptom i have is the headers get red hot within a minute of run time. it is a fully rebuilt 350
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 07:47 PM
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Re: car starts too fast?

I don't know about the quick start, but I wouldn't think it was a bad thing. As for the headers getting red hot, are you meaning a visible orange/red glow or just hot as in you can feel a lot of heat from them? Headers are thinner than stock manifolds and put out more heat, so that would be normal. Glowing orange/red = not so normal.
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 08:10 PM
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Re: car starts too fast?

could be a major timing issue, or lean
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 08:22 PM
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like red glowing hot, and i know my fuel trim is correct. could it be the choke?
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 08:25 PM
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Re: car starts too fast?

I doubt it is the choke. Sounds way lean to me. What about the water temperature, what's it reading?

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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 08:42 PM
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water temp is around 190
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 08:46 PM
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the 190 is within 1 minute as well? I am wondering if the overbore has anything to do with it?
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 08:53 PM
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no it takes anywhere from 7 to 10 minutes to get at 190 at idle, and im not sure i wouldnt think it would be a problem.
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 08:56 PM
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hmmm, those glowing headers are puzzling. Seems lean, but 190 is right on. Are the plugs the correct heat range?
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 09:03 PM
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i have the accel shorty plugs
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 09:04 PM
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Re: car starts too fast?

I could think of a couple of things that may contribute. how old are the injectors?(you never said if it was tbi tpi or carbureted) May be bad and leaking causing the quick start? A better theory may be low compression from valves/timing being off, taking less time to get the motor spinning fast enough with the starter to run. blow by on the exhaust valves could make combustion occur in the headers, which could cause the glowing headers. check timing first then do compression tests on the cylinders.
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Old Jul 24, 2011 | 09:25 PM
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Re: car starts too fast?

Check your timing!!
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 01:58 AM
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Re: car starts too fast?

I vote for timing too!

or vacuum leak.
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Old Jul 25, 2011 | 08:15 PM
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Re: car starts too fast?

what exactly could cause blowby on the exhaust valves, bc i ran open headers for around 300 miles but i always covered the end up after i shut it off
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 01:45 AM
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Re: car starts too fast?

Originally Posted by IROCZdude
is it normal that as soon as i turn the key it fires right up, like i cant even hear it crank. could this be caused by incorrect timing ? another symptom i have is the headers get red hot within a minute of run time. it is a fully rebuilt 350
Wish my engine started that fast lol
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Old Jul 27, 2011 | 01:53 AM
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Re: car starts too fast?

Originally Posted by Napster134
Wish my engine started that fast lol
Lol thats what I was thinking. My worn out 305 takes a bit. Scares me each time if its going to turn on or not! haha
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 05:10 PM
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Re: car starts too fast?

Originally Posted by IROCZdude
what exactly could cause blowby on the exhaust valves, bc i ran open headers for around 300 miles but i always covered the end up after i shut it off

Timing as has been said, too much slack in timing chain, weak valve springs, bent valves, or built up carbon on valve seat. Like i said check your compression. i think that's a tool you can borrow from the auto parts store or theyre not expensive to buy
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Old Jul 28, 2011 | 05:15 PM
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Re: car starts too fast?

Did you check your timing???
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Old Jul 29, 2011 | 03:33 PM
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Re: car starts too fast?

Originally Posted by DrexRS
Lol thats what I was thinking. My worn out 305 takes a bit. Scares me each time if its going to turn on or not! haha
haha I agree!
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