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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 04:33 PM
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ok so i have a 350 , block # 10054727. an its carb (holley 600) holley intake, has the 193 swirl port heads. now i am on a tight budget, im looking to keep the heads stock because i dont have the money to buy aftermarkets at the moment, im wanting to put a cam it it that will work for the heads, im gonna change the valve springs an timing chain. my questions are, what is a good cam that will work for my heads, i dont know if my block is a roller block, could i use a lt1 cam if its not a roller block? an whats a good set of valve spring and timing chain set?.

this will be my first motor i break down, so any help will be greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 08:49 PM
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Order these: http://www.competitionproducts.com/E...ctinfo/E1128M/ and http://www.competitionproducts.com/H...uctinfo/98111/ and http://www.competitionproducts.com/C...ctinfo/C3023X/
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 09:48 PM
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Wow man. This really helps me out. Im excited on this project. Ill keep you posted, i have a question. Do u kno if this cam is loupy?
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 10:24 PM
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Any "off-the-shelf" cam that has a lopey idle won't start working until after your current heads have given up. You'd have no low-end thanks to a "lopey" cam, and no top-end thanks to those heads. The airflow has to match the RPM. You can get mild cams to sound mean if you use headers and a decent muffler, but it won't "chop". You wanted something that'll improve performance with the rest of what you have, I can say from experience that this will do very well.
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 11:02 PM
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Re: need some help..

Originally Posted by codyscamaroz28
ok so i have a 350 , block # 10054727. an its carb (holley 600) holley intake, has the 193 swirl port heads. now i am on a tight budget, im looking to keep the heads stock because i dont have the money to buy aftermarkets at the moment, im wanting to put a cam it it that will work for the heads, im gonna change the valve springs an timing chain. my questions are, what is a good cam that will work for my heads, i dont know if my block is a roller block, could i use a lt1 cam if its not a roller block? an whats a good set of valve spring and timing chain set?.

this will be my first motor i break down, so any help will be greatly appreciated, thanks!
The casting for that engine is the same for mine and mine is not a roller block. It is an 86' and up block, 2 or 4 mains, 1 piece rear main seal, "some made in Canada."

About the heads, I had the same ones on my block originally and from what all I've researched they aren't ideal for performance. I don't know how tight your budget is, but you could probably find some better flowing Vortech heads for a pretty good price.
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 11:20 PM
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]The casting for that engine is the same for mine and mine is not a roller block. It is an 86' and up block, 2 or 4 mains, 1 piece rear main seal, "some made in Canada."

About the heads, I had the same ones on my block originally and from what all I've researched they aren't ideal for performance. I don't know how tight your budget is, but you could probably find some better flowing Vortech heads for a pretty good price.[/QUOTE]


Alright. Which is better a 2 bolt or a 4 bolt? And if i got vortec heads would it work with my holley intake? Thanks for the help man.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 12:20 AM
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Re: need some help..

Originally Posted by Atilla the Fun
Any "off-the-shelf" cam that has a lopey idle won't start working until after your current heads have given up. You'd have no low-end thanks to a "lopey" cam, and no top-end thanks to those heads. The airflow has to match the RPM. You can get mild cams to sound mean if you use headers and a decent muffler, but it won't "chop". You wanted something that'll improve performance with the rest of what you have, I can say from experience that this will do very well.


so is this cam that u suggested considered to be mild cam? I have headers, an a flowmaster exhaust. and what hp increase will i see with what you have suggested? thanks again

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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 08:01 AM
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Alright. Which is better a 2 bolt or a 4 bolt? And if i got vortec heads would it work with my holley intake? Thanks for the help man.
4 bolt mains are better for more power. But 2 bolts are good to probably 500hp and 6k RPM. The block I have is a 2 bolt.

The vortechs probably won't fit that intake. Vortechs have a special intake style from what I've seen. Do you already have that intake?

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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 11:43 AM
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Re: need some help..

Originally Posted by Seanphelps321
4 bolt mains are better for more power. But 2 bolts are good to probably 500hp and 6k RPM. The block I have is a 2 bolt.

The vortechs probably won't fit that intake. Vortechs have a special intake style from what I've seen. Do you already have that intake?
alright, this is a dumb question ,but how to you kno its it a 2 or 4 main? I know you gotta pull the pan, and yea i have the intake. its a complete motor.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 06:53 PM
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Originally Posted by codyscamaroz28
alright, this is a dumb question ,but how to you kno its it a 2 or 4 main? I know you gotta pull the pan, and yea i have the intake. its a complete motor.
Pretty much what it says. 2 bolt mains have 2 bolts, 1 on each side. 4 bolt mains have 4, 2 on each side. Pull the pan and look at the caps holding the crankshaft in place. There should be 5. 1 on back, 1 on front, and 3 between. Example:

The top half of the circles, except this is upside down when you look at it, it'll be opposite. This is a 4 bolt as you can see if you look at the 3 in the middle.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 07:39 PM
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Alright. Im.gonna start pullin this motor outta my 82 in the next week or so. Ill keep you posted man. Thanks again for the help.
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Old Jul 20, 2012 | 02:23 PM
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Re: need some help..

Originally Posted by Atilla the Fun
Any "off-the-shelf" cam that has a lopey idle won't start working until after your current heads have given up. You'd have no low-end thanks to a "lopey" cam, and no top-end thanks to those heads. The airflow has to match the RPM. You can get mild cams to sound mean if you use headers and a decent muffler, but it won't "chop". You wanted something that'll improve performance with the rest of what you have, I can say from experience that this will do very well.


Also, what valve seals should i get? The motor set awhile and i know the seals need to be replaced.
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Old Jul 21, 2012 | 08:47 AM
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Originally Posted by codyscamaroz28
Also, what valve seals should i get? The motor set awhile and i know the seals need to be replaced.
http://www.competitionproducts.com/P...uctinfo/S5325/
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