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Time for an engine rebuild?

Old Mar 30, 2013 | 01:34 AM
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Time for an engine rebuild?

My engine has about 180,000+ miles, it loses about a quart of oil every 2000 miles. lately, it started eating coolant. I think it is time for a rebuild. I was wondering what is the cheapest engine build I can do while getting the most performance? I have a tight budget and I want to get the best bang for the buck.
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 03:15 AM
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Re: Time for an engine rebuild?

A quality rebuild of your current shortblock with a set of 113 heads and a ZZ4 cam, which both can be had, used, for a decent price will net you around 50 more RWHP. Don't forget a tune.
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 09:57 AM
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Re: Time for an engine rebuild?

Here's the reusable parts list, HSR, 1.6 RR's, Crank, Rods, oil pan, valve covers. I was going to get the block machined for $300, buy new heads for $600, buy the LT-4 Hotcam for $250, buy forged pistons for $300, new oil and water pump $150, Gaskets and fluids, $100. Total was $1700, this seems a little too high for me. The goal is at least 330 horsepower at the flywheel. I have a chip burner that I can use for this set up. I want to know where I can cut costs and achieve my goal.

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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 10:35 AM
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Re: Time for an engine rebuild?

You don't need forged pistons for that power level. I think $1700 sounds totally reasonable for another 180k miles of use.
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 11:20 AM
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Re: Time for an engine rebuild?

Originally Posted by 91 1LE
You don't need forged pistons for that power level. I think $1700 sounds totally reasonable for another 180k miles of use.
I started looking at an LT1 swap, so far it might be cheaper than $1700.
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 11:23 AM
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Re: Time for an engine rebuild?

Originally Posted by IrocRoadRacer
I started looking at an LT1 swap, so far it might be cheaper than $1700.
And you'll have a used engine of questionable history.

Rebuild what you have that will be the best for budget.

Agree, don't need forged pistons, heck, you may not even need to bore the block and thus could reuse the stock pistons, with fresh rings.

What heads are you looking at for $600?
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 12:08 PM
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Re: Time for an engine rebuild?

I was looking at a set of 113 heads with stiffer springs.
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 12:17 PM
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Re: Time for an engine rebuild?

Originally Posted by IrocRoadRacer
I was looking at a set of 113 heads with stiffer springs.
I would not spend $600 on 113's that are marginally better then your 083's. Have the 083's machine for bigger springs and get a valve job.

For your needs and budget you'll be fine, IMO.
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 12:32 PM
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Re: Time for an engine rebuild?

Originally Posted by Johnny Blaze
I would not spend $600 on 113's that are marginally better then your 083's. Have the 083's machine for bigger springs and get a valve job.

For your needs and budget you'll be fine, IMO.
That would probably be around $400 for the machine work and springs. As long as I can hit that 330 crank horsepower, I will consider it.
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 12:42 PM
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Re: Time for an engine rebuild?

Are you going to dyno this engine?
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Old Mar 30, 2013 | 02:28 PM
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Re: Time for an engine rebuild?

Originally Posted by Johnny Blaze
Are you going to dyno this engine?
No, I'm doing it for competition and resale purposes. The forged pistons were in case someone wanted to add a supercharger down the road.
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