92 formula help 383 stroker
92 formula help 383 stroker
Want to out 383 stroker in my car as the original l98 is old and tired - was wondering what issues I may run into if I get rid of the tpi setup and run the fitech efi system - will my factory ecu still work for the transmission tcc- speedometer?
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From: Portland, OR
Car: 86 Imponte Ruiner 450GT, 91 Formula
Engine: 350 Vortec, FIRST TPI, 325 RWHP
Transmission: 700R4 3000 stall.
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt Torsen 3.70
Re: 92 formula help 383 stroker
Don't bother with the 383. Just rebuild the 350 and change the cam and heads. 383 will increase the cost quite a bit for not much gain. Torque, yes - but you will likely have too much of that anyway with a built 350. HP gain is very small - like around 15 peak HP.
The TPI is fine - you don't need the FiTech. Check out the First intake:
https://firstfuelinjection.com/products
Get some larger injectors and run it with the EBL system from RBob. This way it's plug and play with the factory harness, etc.
GD
The TPI is fine - you don't need the FiTech. Check out the First intake:
https://firstfuelinjection.com/products
Get some larger injectors and run it with the EBL system from RBob. This way it's plug and play with the factory harness, etc.
GD
Joined: Jun 2003
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From: Desert
Car: 1991 Z28 Vert
Engine: 383 single plane efi
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 8.8 with 3.73s
Re: 92 formula help 383 stroker
Buy a GM L31 long block, a vortec base stealth ram and an ebl that Rbob sells. The L31 is an awesome deal when you consider how much it would cost you to rebuild an engine that would make as much HP. The ebl is great for starting out in efi tuning since its plug and play with enormous support on here. A Chinese base vortec stealth ram will also make more power and cost less than modifying a TPI setup.
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From: Hurst, Texas
Car: 1983 G20 Chevy
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 14 bolt with 3.07 gears
Re: 92 formula help 383 stroker
Don't bother with the 383. Just rebuild the 350 and change the cam and heads. 383 will increase the cost quite a bit for not much gain. Torque, yes - but you will likely have too much of that anyway with a built 350. HP gain is very small - like around 15 peak HP.
The TPI is fine - you don't need the FiTech. Check out the First intake:
https://firstfuelinjection.com/products
Get some larger injectors and run it with the EBL system from RBob. This way it's plug and play with the factory harness, etc.
GD
The TPI is fine - you don't need the FiTech. Check out the First intake:
https://firstfuelinjection.com/products
Get some larger injectors and run it with the EBL system from RBob. This way it's plug and play with the factory harness, etc.
GD
Last edited by Fast355; Jan 16, 2019 at 04:08 PM.
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From: Portland, OR
Car: 86 Imponte Ruiner 450GT, 91 Formula
Engine: 350 Vortec, FIRST TPI, 325 RWHP
Transmission: 700R4 3000 stall.
Axle/Gears: 9 Bolt Torsen 3.70
Re: 92 formula help 383 stroker
The problem I see is that on an otherwise stock car - transmission, suspension, traction, body stiffness, etc - shifting that torque down and making so much more of it really is just an invitation to have to upgrade everything else in the WORLD to handle it. Of course if that's what you want..... the cost of doing the stroker vs rebuilding the 350 will be significant, and I would argue probably pointless because the stock short block is unlikely to handle that much power without billet splayed main caps and other work...... personally if I'm going that far I might as well just get a Dart block with a larger bore that's already clearanced, has the priority main oiling, splayed caps, and so on.
It's not that hard to built a 400-450 HP 350 and that's about the limit of what I would suggest someone drop into their otherwise stock F body. And also probably close to the limit of what a stock 4 bolt block should be put through on a regular basis.
The torque shift.... great for a truck. Stump pulling, etc. But for the F body I wouldn't. Setup right the 350 has plenty of torque.
GD
It's not that hard to built a 400-450 HP 350 and that's about the limit of what I would suggest someone drop into their otherwise stock F body. And also probably close to the limit of what a stock 4 bolt block should be put through on a regular basis.
The torque shift.... great for a truck. Stump pulling, etc. But for the F body I wouldn't. Setup right the 350 has plenty of torque.
GD
Last edited by GeneralDisorder; Jan 16, 2019 at 04:50 PM.
Joined: Jun 2003
Posts: 5,028
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From: Desert
Car: 1991 Z28 Vert
Engine: 383 single plane efi
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: 8.8 with 3.73s
Re: 92 formula help 383 stroker
We'll what's the purpose of this car? 350 rear wheel horsepower (which a 350 can do) is plenty of power for these cars on the street.
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From: Hurst, Texas
Car: 1983 G20 Chevy
Engine: 305 TPI
Transmission: 4L60
Axle/Gears: 14 bolt with 3.07 gears
Re: 92 formula help 383 stroker
The problem I see is that on an otherwise stock car - transmission, suspension, traction, body stiffness, etc - shifting that torque down and making so much more of it really is just an invitation to have to upgrade everything else in the WORLD to handle it. Of course if that's what you want..... the cost of doing the stroker vs rebuilding the 350 will be significant, and I would argue probably pointless because the stock short block is unlikely to handle that much power without billet splayed main caps and other work...... personally if I'm going that far I might as well just get a Dart block with a larger bore that's already clearanced, has the priority main oiling, splayed caps, and so on.
It's not that hard to built a 400-450 HP 350 and that's about the limit of what I would suggest someone drop into their otherwise stock F body. And also probably close to the limit of what a stock 4 bolt block should be put through on a regular basis.
The torque shift.... great for a truck. Stump pulling, etc. But for the F body I wouldn't. Setup right the 350 has plenty of torque.
GD
It's not that hard to built a 400-450 HP 350 and that's about the limit of what I would suggest someone drop into their otherwise stock F body. And also probably close to the limit of what a stock 4 bolt block should be put through on a regular basis.
The torque shift.... great for a truck. Stump pulling, etc. But for the F body I wouldn't. Setup right the 350 has plenty of torque.
GD
A good running 305 can kill every driveline component on these cars and start to twist the chassis. Anybody building one of these cars up should already know they are going to be making massive changes to it.
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