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Old Feb 15, 2020 | 04:56 PM
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Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

1989 5.7 TPI
Tracing an oil leak the car doesnt get driven much and sits in a garage. But it has had an oil leak since I can remember. The starter is covered in oil and so is the oil pan and tranny. I took the converter cover to take a look at the rear main but cant tell if thas the source of the leak. Driver side engine block looks pretty dry. Passenger side towards the rear not so much. Ive read the dipstick may leak, I can move the dipstick tube in and out of the engine block with no effort, is that normal?





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Old Feb 15, 2020 | 05:07 PM
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

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1989 5.7 TPI
I can move the dipstick tube in and out of the engine block with no effort, is that normal?
No this is NOT normal you need a new dipstick tube/assembly.
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Old Feb 15, 2020 | 05:29 PM
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

Probably not the rear main seal.

No it is not normal for the dipstick tube to be loose.

It would be easier to spot the source of the leak if you took that to the quarter car wash and cleaned it up first.
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Old Feb 15, 2020 | 05:32 PM
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

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Probably not the rear main seal.

No it is not normal for the dipstick tube to be loose.

It would be easier to spot the source of the leak if you took that to the quarter car wash and cleaned it up first.

I am in the process of wiping the underside as best as possible. And looking for a replacement dipstick tube.
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Old Feb 15, 2020 | 05:41 PM
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

definitely address the dipstick tube first. I recently tracked down an oil leak to the oil pressure sender behind the intake manifold, it was causing oil to leak down my engine and drip off the starter bolts
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Old Feb 15, 2020 | 06:11 PM
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

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definitely address the dipstick tube first. I recently tracked down an oil leak to the oil pressure sender behind the intake manifold, it was causing oil to leak down my engine and drip off the starter bolts
On an 89 wouldn't the oil pressure sending unit be above the oil filter on the block?

First place I'd check is the valve cover bolts. For whatever reason, they tend to work loose, don't ask me to explain why.

The rear main and rear of the pan gasket don't look too bad, they're not dripping, which usually if they were leaking more than normal i'd expect a visible drip. The oily mess seems to extend forward on the block, so look further forward. Check the front cover seal around the balancer, for example. Check the intake gaskets. Visually poke around until you see the obvious AH HA! source of the leak.

The dipstick tube shouldn't move because it should be bolted under one of the exhaust bolts with a welded tab that keeps it from coming out. IF the bolt is there, and you can pull the tube out, that'd be bad. If you don't see a visual indicator of lots of oil around the dipstick tube to pan connection, it's probably not the source of your leak.

Think of it this way, compared to a pre-86 SBC, that's not even a leak. It's insignificant from that viewpoint.
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Old Feb 15, 2020 | 06:40 PM
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

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On an 89 wouldn't the oil pressure sending unit be above the oil filter on the block?

First place I'd check is the valve cover bolts. For whatever reason, they tend to work loose, don't ask me to explain why.

The rear main and rear of the pan gasket don't look too bad, they're not dripping, which usually if they were leaking more than normal i'd expect a visible drip. The oily mess seems to extend forward on the block, so look further forward. Check the front cover seal around the balancer, for example. Check the intake gaskets. Visually poke around until you see the obvious AH HA! source of the leak.

The dipstick tube shouldn't move because it should be bolted under one of the exhaust bolts with a welded tab that keeps it from coming out. IF the bolt is there, and you can pull the tube out, that'd be bad. If you don't see a visual indicator of lots of oil around the dipstick tube to pan connection, it's probably not the source of your leak.

Think of it this way, compared to a pre-86 SBC, that's not even a leak. It's insignificant from that viewpoint.
I had previously replaced the oil sending unit above the oil filter thinking that may be the culprit as it was drenched in oil but it turned out to not be the source. Just double checked the valve covers bolts they are pretty snug and no obvious signs of leaks. Now I am thinking it may be the oil pan gasket or the diptstick tube. I dont see a tab for the tube it may have sheered off for some reason. When I purchased the vehicle the previous owner had the engine rebuilt but this was over 10 years ago and in those 10 years I have only logged 30k miles on it and its always had the small leak. The stain the garage is maybe a 5" diameter and the car hadn't moved in 3 months. Will look into a new dipstick tube solution and cleaning the underside.
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

cleaning the underside
Quarter car wash. Pick up acoupla cans of "engine degreaser" on your way; soak everything with that real good; then blast it off with the high pressure. Being careful of course around electrical things.
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

Originally Posted by Drew
On an 89 wouldn't the oil pressure sending unit be above the oil filter on the block?
you’re right, i didn’t pay attention to what year car he has
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 03:24 AM
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

Wash down the area as previously advised. Oil tends to blow all over the place once it gets down to the bottom of the engine.

When was the last time you replaced the drain plug seal?

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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 07:38 AM
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

Originally Posted by sofakingdom
... It would be easier to spot the source of the leak if you took that to the quarter car wash and cleaned it up first.

Geez, Robért, you're really showing us your AARP card... A quarter? When's the last time you saw a gas war?
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 07:43 AM
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

If it were mine, I would pull thw tube, clean everyhing with acetone, lacquer thinner, or a similar solvent, then apply a coat of LocTite 620 and maybe a small O-ring at the swage of the dipstick tube, then ram it home. After a cure, clean up the mess and monitor for more leakage.
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 08:04 AM
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

The tubes slide in/out fairly easy. Needs a touch of sealer and bolt tube in securely.
You could do a rear main and pan gasket if you want to, they are old if they are original.
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 08:57 AM
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A quarter?
OK then: the LOTS OF QUARTERS car wash. Or is it ApplePay, WeChat, or some other such nowadays?
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 09:49 AM
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

Originally Posted by paulo57509
Wash down the area as previously advised. Oil tends to blow all over the place once it gets down to the bottom of the engine.

When was the last time you replaced the drain plug seal?

Actually the seal/washer is new. The oil comes from above and collects at the lowest point which happens to be the drain plug.
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 10:37 AM
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

Also: is the smog pump bracket, at the lower right front of the engine next to the crank damper, still there?
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 10:42 AM
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

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Also: is the smog pump bracket, at the lower right front of the engine next to the crank damper, still there?

Yes the car is completely smog compliant and passes.
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Old Feb 16, 2020 | 12:58 PM
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Re: Does this look like a rear main seal leak??

Check and make sure there's a bolt in this hole, and that it's tight.

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