ihateallmustangs

1/4 mile race, who would win?

RB's84camaroF-41

ZR1

curt86iroc

I agree, ZR1.....amazing car......

shrp1

Stock for stock the ZR1 but not by much will depend on driver. Motor Trend did a head to head test in like Nov 1990, it was actually a FLAT OUT FASTEST test, I think the TTA qwent to 60 faster but got taken by the ZR1, also the ZR1 went something like 189 MPH the TTA managed like 167.

Now if were talking modified I think the TTA would win.

tpivette89

quarter mile times in the high-mid 12s :hail: ZR1

Mark A Shields

Anyone have pics of the ZR1, how many produced.

Here's my Vette.

RMK

Mark,

If that's your 'Vette then I'm your bitch! :sillylol:

As for those that think modded for modded the TTA would win, I'll need to put you in touch with Norm Koerner. Owner of number 3 of 4 Lingenfelter TT ZR1s. He was putting out about 820rwhp last I spoke to him. Nice

Rob

shrp1

Well I hate to break it to you but I can put you in touch with more than 4 TTA's making way more than 820rwhp. and they are doing it with only 6 cyl !!

SOO back to reality, a slightly modded TTA will beat a ZR1 in the 1/4, not top end though.

shrp1

This is right off the ZR1 web site, from the info Id say it will depend on driver, to close to call STOCK 4 STOCK.


QUESTION: How fast are ZR-1's?

ANS: That is a hard question to answer. Performance numbers vary from ZR to ZR because not every engine built on an assembly line will all have the same horsepower. The LT5 in the ZR-1 will vary from 355 to 414 for example in the 1990 - 1992 375hp cars. Then in 1993 - 1995 the hp went up to a rating of 405hp. Then of course once on the track things like weather conditions, track conditions and driver can affect results. But on average a ZR-1 will do 1/4 mile times around 12.9 at 110mph and 0-60 in 4.9 to 5.2 seconds. I have seen stock ZR-1's do the 1/4 in 12.5 and some in 13.7.

shrp1

QUESTION: How many ZR-1's did GM build?

ANS: GM built a total of 6,939 ZR-1s. The first year, 1990, they built 3,049, in 1991 they built 2,044, 1992 502, in 1993-1995 they built 448 each year.

RMK

I know there are TTAs out there that put out that much hp, I was just mentioning that there are some serrious ZR1s out there too. The TTAs motor is just amazing. There's no other word to describe it. No flames were intended with my initial comment.

Sorry to get a little off topic with this but....Last time I heard from Norm, his car was back at Lingenfelter having some upgrades and some lighter body panels fitted. That car is simply amazing. There was supposed to be a big smack down with Norm and Johm Hennessey and his 1087rwhhp Venom, but since Taig Steward has started his $1million court case John has just been reading the boards instead of posting so the race/video never happened Would have been amazing too. Sorry to get off topic.

Back to it though. You can't compare a modded TTA to anything else American except a GN. They are the American Mk IV Supra, they respont too well to mods which make it difficult to keep up with them. I want one.

Rob

1BADDAM

ZR-1. Yet, the TTA puts up a good fight for being half the price, considering both are new.

RB's84camaroF-41

Heres a 95

RB's84camaroF-41

argh double post

RB's84camaroF-41

heres a 91, rice rice baby

Mark A Shields

Actually, I think that 91 looks a lot better than the '95 , though I don't like the rims.

RB's84camaroF-41

I just hate ground effects on newer style cars, IMO they look tacky on 4th gens and c4 and c5 vettes. Wing is just blasphemy

RMK

I agree

I don't mind the ground effects too much, I'm not so sure on the vents in the fenders though

88blkiroc

a new Z06 will take them both out

Mark A Shields

I was reading in some Chevy magazine where they had like 5 cars running the 1/4 mile with the owner's of the cars. I guess they weren't professionals since a guy ran 13.32 in his Z06. Man, he must suck at drivin.

Synapsis

When I went to buy my Iroc-Z in Bakersfield, Ca.. the guy's friend had a blue 1991 ZR-1 in his garage. It was a beautiful car inside and out, looked just like it came from the showroom. Then I saw the 15 pound bottle in the trunk. :hail: ZR-1

RedFirebird

ZR1 would take a stock TTA. And if i had to choose between a new Z06 and an older ZR1, i'd take the ZR1. ZR1 had about the same horsepower from the factory but they were bottled up too. Those things have a 7K red-line from the factory and they respond very well to mods, thanks to those 16 extra valves........

TBurke

Wow. A theoretical race between 2 cars that actually have *****!

ZR-1 stock for stock. However I don't think a stock TTA exists anymore.

USually we get will my 120 horse LG4 beat a neon with a 5" pipe.

The answer my 10 speed schwinn.

RMK

I'm sure there will be someone who has kept their TTA stock because of the rarity of them and the value that they will hold/fetch in the future. I'm also betting that there are loads out there that could be turned back to stock with little trouble.

Amazing cars, both of them.

Rob

1987 GN

Stock TTAs still exist. Just picked up my 1111 mile example a few weeks ago. Original everything. When looking I found no less than 30 with under 1500 miles that were bone stock. Those 30 were jsut the ones that happened to be for sale at that time too! I think quite a few of those were bought and tucked away and have yet to see the light of day. Those ZR1s are nice but for the $65k they cost new I would have gladly taken a couple of TTAs!

RMK

1987 GN

What sort of prices were the TTA advertised at?

iroc22

Ive ridden in a ZR1 before and the real place these cars shine is in the corners. 1.00g on the skidpad from a car made in the early 90s?? Thats unheard of. Back then there was probably no cars that could touch a ZR1 in autox.

fly89gta

iTrader: (1)

can't argue that point

fly89gta

iTrader: (1)

87 GN, please share how much did u snag that TTA for?

1987 GN

I bought my TTA for $20k. Most of the others were in the same range. The sub 100-mile cars tended to be about $22k-$25k depending on where they were in the country. I ended up paying to have mine shipped too which added to the cost but it was certainly worth it. Let me know if you have any other questions!

Rich

Mark A Shields

Yeah, can you post some pics, I'm making a Video Picture CD of a some cars on 3rd Gen and really need some TTA pics.

shrp1

i have some here. I can also email them to you.

BTW I bought a 49K mile car,had some mods and not original but VERY NICE. I PAID 10K.

http://www.imageevent.com/turbo/89tta

Mark A Shields

Thanks shrp1, I'll check it out. By the way there is a sample of what I'm doing in my signature, I still have some bugs to work out.

BTW, if you have higher resolution pics, could you email them to me.
buffshields@yahoo.com
thanks