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View Poll Results: What would the outcome of the race be?
S2000 wins
3
8.11%
Z28 wins
6
16.22%
S2000 wins, I poke him in the eye with a rock and hide his car in my trunk while he's distracted.
2
5.41%
Z28 wins, his girlfriend jumps in my car and takes me to a hot tub party with naked supermodels.
26
70.27%
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Who would win? Me vs S2000.

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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:57 AM
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Who would win? Me vs S2000.

So this guy in my apartment complex bought an s2000, an 00, or 01 or something, 4 banger, that's about all I know. So he starts talking trash about my giant american POS car (so my car looks like crap, I'm workin on it! and he wants to race. I tell him OK, but now he's kinda worming out of it. So if we do race, any ideas on who would win? What do those things run stock?
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 05:45 AM
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u got a 383!! ur gonna smoke him!! he only has a chance if you're racing over a windy mountain road and first guy to the other side wins.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:26 AM
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How can you even ask this question, Your car with a stock 305 might give him a run for his money. But your running a 383 and a lot of mods (including 3.73, big advantage). You will wax him as long as your car has a decent tune on it.
This question is like who would win in a game of Basketball Micheal Jordan (10 years ago) or me (now, 5'11", White boy with no ball skills), Hmmm (psst I'd be the s2000).
Go wax him,

p.s. white men can't jump, and I can't play Basketball
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 09:28 AM
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Oh yea I forgot, afterwards at the hot tub party, get a few supermodels #'s for me. It would be greatly appreciated:hail:
Good Luck, Garrett
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 01:28 PM
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Supermodels #s

Alright, I'll try and get supermodels numbers for everyone!!!


Sounds about how I thought though. I just needed some back up cause I wasn't completely sure how fast those things run
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 01:44 PM
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You should take him, S2000s are notoriously difficult to extract maximum performance from, due to the quirky powerband. Yes, they make 240 horses stock, and yes the specific output is 120 HP/L, but it's torque is laughable (35 lb-ft @ about 35,000 rpm). When it first was put into production, the major automotive mags (motor trend, car and driver, road and track) were showing as much as two seconds difference in the 0-60 times they acheived with the car. Point being, you really have to wring the car out to get really good performance out of it.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 02:11 PM
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Ok, if you didn't have all those mods, it'd be close. With an S2000, you have to drive that **** like a 16 year old that just stole it. They make ALL their power at really high RPMS, I can't remember exactly, but they rev to like 9-10K stock, they used their motorcycle technology/engineering to make that engine. If he doesn't know how to drive that car, he isn't going to click off those killer times that they get in the magazines and such. You should be able to decimate him.
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 02:52 PM
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with a proper running 383,it shouldnt matter if John Force was driving the Honda. .
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 02:53 PM
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high 13's low 14's are a possibility in a stock s2000, depending on driver/track conditions/tires... etc...
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 03:14 PM
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ive only seen 1 s2000 at the track before and i was kind of disappointed, he was running 15.3-15.4, i thought they were faster but like they said its hard to get all the potential performance out of them....u will walk over him easily...you should tape it and put it on the net so i can show my ***** buddies that the godly s2000 is slow
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 03:43 PM
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Originally posted by fast86z28
ive only seen 1 s2000 at the track before and i was kind of disappointed, he was running 15.3-15.4, i thought they were faster but like they said its hard to get all the potential performance out of them....u will walk over him easily...you should tape it and put it on the net so i can show my ***** buddies that the godly s2000 is slow
my friend who uses this site ran a low 15 in his moms new late 90's z28... do not judge a cars performance by a handfull of track runs youve seen.. i agree that the s2000 is a highly over rated car, BUT that does not make it slow.. i have seen them click off low 14 sec passes.. and i KNOW that with a profesional driver they are capable of a high 13.. if i were you... i would prepare for a race with a low 14 sec car.. chances are with it being a new car he is slower, but underestimating an oponent will NOT win you races... so treat it like the car it is capable of being, because if he is a good driver that might just be what you are running, adn at BEST they go 13.8... that is the best stats ive ever seen..
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 03:46 PM
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yea i agree with you and normally dont judge cars just by what i see at the track, but all i was saying is i was disappointed to see whats supposed to be a quick car running 15s....granted an s2000 would walk all over me but thats not my point
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 04:00 PM
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Originally posted by fast86z28
yea i agree with you and normally dont judge cars just by what i see at the track, but all i was saying is i was disappointed to see whats supposed to be a quick car running 15s....granted an s2000 would walk all over me but thats not my point
its odd.. you don't normaly see such a variation.. ive seen 13.8 all the way to 15 what gives.. lol i wish i knew they were that slow last weekend.. i tried to get some kid in a brand new yellow one to run me and he would not.. i was bluffing bad... come to find out it probably would have been resonably close
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 05:35 PM
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So if he doesn't keep backing out I'll try and tape it, but he's being really squirmy now. Maybe I should race him for slips? I'll make sure he isn't running N20 or anything first of course
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 05:37 PM
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run him for slips....just imagine how fast you could make your car with an extra 30g's
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Old Aug 9, 2002 | 11:49 PM
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Originally posted by Ragnarok_Tyr
You should take him, S2000s are notoriously difficult to extract maximum performance from, due to the quirky powerband. Yes, they make 240 horses stock, and yes the specific output is 120 HP/L, but it's torque is laughable (35 lb-ft @ about 35,000 rpm).
As much hp as it has, which is impressive for an I4, it has almost 90 less torque than hp at rpms that far exceeds our redlines:

* Horsepower: 240 @ 8300rpm
* Torque: 153 @ 7500rpm:sillylol:
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 12:22 AM
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Why the heck are you guys bickering about wheather it's a 13 or 15 sec car???? It makes no sence. BlacKnight should be in the low 12's, or better with his setup!!! And the fact that s2000s come factory tuned to about their max, engine mods are expensive, and not always very effective, I think the rich ***** has no chance.

Lets not start a huge argument(like the one that occoured when I posted about beating an s2000 in a highway race)

He will only see your taillights. Thats all we need to know.
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 05:03 AM
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You don't play Darkspace do you? That little sayin at the bottom of your sig made me wonder "All your base are belong to us" hehe
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 07:14 PM
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i thought that theredline was 10-11 on them

great power per cube 1.9?:hail:
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 07:48 PM
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depends how u race him, you talking 1/4 mile? sure you'll beat him with no problem, now take this to the open highway for a top end race you'll probably be staring at his taillights...

these cars SCREAM top end with their high RPM power.

As far as the varying timeslips for the S2000, these cars are VERY hard to launch, you have to get it just right, if you fall out of the power band forget it, you're dead in the water...
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Old Aug 10, 2002 | 08:11 PM
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That S2000 has no chance, you'll smoke the **** out of him. Have fun.

:hail: 383 Stroker Power
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Old Aug 12, 2002 | 09:11 PM
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i've raced one with 3 people in the car and from a stop he couldn't touch me ( he wasn't a good driver) but from a roll he bearly pulled away. i'm not impressed with their acceleration but the handle like monsters. 383 and 3.73 will destroy him from a stop and a roll with no problem.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 12:06 AM
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s2000

Well if I only seen some guys run S2000's at the track and only seen some guys run 383 Camaro's at the track and the Camaro's are like 3 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile I don't think the S2000 is going to win. I don't care who drives unless they just can't drive.
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Old Aug 13, 2002 | 12:33 AM
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I just got done racing an S2000 in my 88' IROC-Z.. Refer to this post for the story and S2000 Performance #'s I got from Car/Driver.
https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=125471
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