there were 2 incredible street cars running at Cecil County last night. one was a modded 03' Cobra (whom i had the pleasure of running), and the other was a 02' Z06. the Cobra had all the usual bolt ons: K&N with removed silencer, Hpipe, catback, Lightning pulley, short shifter, and DRs. i ran him 2 times, and he must have REALLY wanted to beat me cause he redlighted BAD both times (.221 first run and .391 2nd). here are his passes:

60ft: 1.71 1.74
330: 4.89 4.89
1/8: 7.55 7.55
mph: 93.50 94.07
1/4: 11.68 11.66
mph: 119.64 120.50

yeah, id say he was making some power. now the Z06 was equally impressive. i didnt run him, so i dont have all the extra data, but i saw him go 11.6s on 2 runs at 120mph. the real kicker? alls he had was DRs and a blackwing filter. i talked to him for awhile in the pits, really cool guy. the Cobra guy, on the other hand, would only give me stares.

oh, and what did i run that night? well i figued out why my car didnt respond to my newest mods: my timing was 6* retarded. so i set it straight and got 3 runs in that night:

1st - 13.24 at 103.77 w 1.87 60ft
2nd - 13.24 at 104.07 w 1.90 60ft
3rd - 13.20 at 104.22 w 1.89 60ft

not bad for a auto TPI car with about $750 invested, huh?

 

Cool, why would that Cobra be so trigger happy? dummy, has no faith in his car.

 

He must have thought you had something hidden. Man if my car went 11s, I wouldn't be to worried about much, but he does have a car with ALOT of hype behind it, so he couldn't lose!

Your runs look really good, especially the 60' times, very impressive! Good luck on the 12s with it!

 

What a dipstick. Anyone every stoplight race someone who runs the light just before it turns green? Kind stupid AND dangerous in that case, isn't it?

 

Yeah Abel, in Philly everyone goes when the other light goes red. It's nuts. Cars, trucks, buses, cops, everyone. Awesome runs TPIVette. I'm very jealous of your stock Z that would kick my cars slow a$$. Actually, i haven't run it in a while and i should be running better. Whatever, I don't give excuses. Z06's are awesome, those new cobras are insane too. Give me the vette anyday though. I like the look, sound, and history way better. Who would have ever thought two years ago the Z06 would have competition from a Mustang? It used to be F-bods vs. Stangs, but i guess with no more F-bods and low 12 sec stock Mustangs it's expected.

~Matt

 

I guess Ford had to do something. They only have one sports car, pretty much. So they decide to unleash 4-7 Mustangs at one. V6, GT, Cobra, Cobra R, FR500 (they did release that, didn't they?), Bullit...and so on.

 

Yeah, it's too bad Ford needed a supercharger to keep up with the Vette and kill the f-bodies. Oh well. 427 sc-ed Vette coming soon? I wouldn't be surprised. Maybe the F-bodies will come back with one. I don't know. All I do know is that the best car ever produced N/A from the factory is this year's Z06. Hands down. Like this...:hail:

~Matt

 

Just put a leash on that talking smack about Fords there, chum. I can, after all, destroy the competition of oversized box-bodies of 1985. Of course, that is 17 years ago. The world is different.
What I want to see is carburetors again. Now that would be cool. But also very unlikely.

 

i'm not bad-mouthing fords, my first car was a '95 Taurus SE. It was slow, but it's a family car so i didn't expect much. I just thought maybe ford could have done something besides a power adder for the mustang. Hell, they only use a 4.6, maybe they could up the cubes? That Mustang is definately killer though. And those Lightnings are insane too. GM needs to come back with the f-bodies, because GTP's are family cars at heart and the Corvette needs a cheaper, slower brother car. The role the Camaro filled. I know the new GTO is supposed to be a good car, but you can't fill the Firebird's shoes. I don't like the idea of replacing one muscle car with another. Especially one that already went away. Just my opinion though. I'd take a new Cobra and a new Z06. I prefer the look and heritage of the vette more, but i wouldn't complain with a new cobra. My dad had a '74 Mustang Mach II and i was looking at one for $1,000 before i bought my car. I still think about what it would be like to have that 351...

~Matt

 

very nice runs with that l98. im a lil jealous...

 

thanks for the compliments guys! ALOT of people underestimate the L98 motor. ive had countless people at the track ask why i have a helmet, then i run and they are all shook up and demand to know where im hiding the nitrous bottle. ive even had a guy ask if i was supercharged:sillylol:

hahaha, thanks! i cant believe it runs that also! everyone told me it would be low 17s/high 16s, but i guess not. with the airbox assembly on it would still go 16.2. im looking for high 15s in this cold weather were having now. once the Vette goes 12s, i may start playing with the daily driver a little. gotta be able to smack down those ricers no matter which car im driving

 

Yeah, Matt, what the hell is wrong with Ford? Now I'm going to have to say something. 350 vs 5.0, 346 vs 281...something is wrong here. What the hell is wrong with you, Ford, going Honda on us? What is it with these smaller engines? Although a 281 is actually larger than a 302-actual size, not liters or ci. So I guess it's bigger than a 351W as well.
Also...I don't have anything against turbos and superchargers...but I want a little more engine and a little less power adder. Take the 231 Buick. With even a little boost, it's pretty fast. I think that's the reason Fast and the Furious type car tuners get on my nerves. You can hook nitrous up to literally anything. So big deal if the car is fast, so would a pinto be, built for nitrous with twin turbos and everything else. Sometimes it's good to have an engine that can work well without assistance. It's like the engine is a pill freak or on medication. It's the same idea.

And the GTO is FWD isn't it? It certainly can't replace the Firebird in that case. There's alot of good FWD cars out there, old and new, but I think I speak for alot of people when I say...it's just not the same as RWD. Neither is 4WD and AWD in my opinion.

 

the new GTO will be RWD.

 

Well that's a little bit of good news. But here's an idea, just tellme if it's too off the wall...Can we have the GTO and the Firebird? Maybe if enough people send complaints about what they've done, they'll bring it back...untarnished. Just think about what horrible Robocop-looking aluminum can it COULD look like. Probably would too, if Cadillac got their hands on it.

 

i would love it if GM brought the fbody's back along with the GTO but its just not going to happen, at least not for a while....

 

Yeah. Bizarre.
It would be good if Oldsmobile had something more appealing. Of course, the 442 is right out. They won't make something with 400 cubes, no carburetors so no 4bbls, no 4 speed since everything has to have overdrive, and, well, dual tips is all you're gonna get. They'd probably have to come up with a new name or just use an old one that maybe wasn't a muscle car in the first place. Dynamic, maybe. But that's not going to happen either, I guess. To me, Oldsmobile and Chrysler seem to be doing the same thing. Everything FWD. All Olds has that isn't is the Bravada.

 

In my opinion the GTO should be a "fullsize" muscle car with full real seats and the Firebird/T/A should be a sports car, like it was back in the 60's no?

 

sounds like some nice times and some nice racing going on!!

 

The new GTO is going to be a full-size, of sorts. It's going to be based on the Holden Monaro, which is used extensively in Australia as a police car/taxi. RWD, 300+hp LS1, IRS, all kinds of alphabet-soup goodies. Lots of muscle-car purists will complain that the new GTO is not a "true" muscle car, due to the absence of a live rear axle, but i would rather have the the traction benefits of an independent rear setup, especially for those mid-corner bumps. Also, I can afford (or rather, can't) to wait a while for a new F-body, since I am a ways off from being able to buy one LOL. Just remember, the longer it takes, the longer Bob Lutz has to cook up some unholy terror of a Camaro to unleash on the streets of America.

 

good times
and yes i can't wait for a new f-body,
biker

 

exactly, Tony, exactly. Firebirds and Camaros, and GTO's all on the road new again. That would be great. They should bring back Chevelles and Novas, but not the 80's Nova. That was a disgrace. If they ever did that to the F-bods I and many others here would be PISSED!

~Matt

 

They wouldn't.......
I wish I could say that with more confidence.