ANybody raced the cavaliers?
Especially someone with a 305

would be interested in the outcome

 

Well it just so happens that i raced one the other night. It has a 5 speed and it had some kind of exhaust tip on it. Any way we took off and i immediatly started putting car after car on it, wasnt even a very fun race because it was such a blowout.

 

Dude Ive smoked two with my 95 Nissan XE V6 truck with 180,000 miles on it. Those things arent a competition for even an LG4 car.

 

I don't know about that. They aren't that bad. My roomate had a Z24 with a 5spd and the 2.4 twin cam and it would move. He only had a cold air kit and that was it and he gave my LO3 a run for my money. He was faster from a roll but I would use my low end to my advantage. The new ones have only 10hp less than the old 2.4 at 140hp compared to the 2.4's 150. Now the mid 90's standard ones had the 2.2 with 115 hp and 4 doors and were slower than molasis.

 

I clicked a 15.4 at 89 mph in my stock ecotec dohc 5spd at norwalk last august stock Way better than my 305 t-5 did but that was before the 350

 

See. I am glad you posted this. Any year Z24 should beat an LG4.

 

I beat a new cavalier 03 or 04 it had body kit, yellow neons, a ugly metal wing, and two fart cannons. IT was a stick and when it scratched second it was loud.
We raced twice one light after another the second light was too close, so we did it again and first gear i pulled about 1/2 or 1/4 car on him then second gear i pulled another 1/2 on him. Then i shut it down due to 40mph limit.
I see him all the time and never wants to race again.
But comparing my 305 tpi auto to my girlfriends 99 z24 w/Quad 4 auto I would tear it up. she said the same when i let her drive my IROC.

 

not that i like my cavalier more than my camaro (not even Close) but its a nice winter car gets great gas mileage is decently fast fun to drive and will walk all over the Civics, Escorts, focuses, V6 (what dosen') and all other **** poppers at my high school.

Nice to see GM get into the sport compact market Even though i wish they would bring back the F-body more than anything

 

hey, Shifty, you're telling me that any model z24 could do that, I don't think so........that means that like a 1983 z, when they first came out i think with a 2.8 v6 could run with a stock thirdgen, I don't think so......but just my opinion

 

no he means 95-2002 Z24s with the 2.4 twin cam which made 150 hp and 165 lbs/ ft and the manuals usually run in the 15's stock and im were only talking about 305swhich almost never ran in the 15s stock except for maybe the 305Ho or 305tpi

And 91rsv6 is your tpi stock? and there not quad fours those are older engines

 

yeah cavi's are slow but I had a friend with a beretta gtz with the 2.3L 180hp but he put w41 cams in to make it 190hp at the crank he would leave camaros all the time it ran mid 14 in the 1320

 

Dude 85iroc04ecotec you really run in the 15's thats crazy. I must have been racing agaist some idiots my truck is a low 16 sec car and I am telling you I wooped the two cavys I raced. Man 15's is really good for a 4 banger. Bet you get like 30 MPG two. When My nissan finally takes a dump on me I might look into one of those as my every day car. I really want an Xtreme S10 though.

 

THe cavaliers you raced were probably non ecotec OHV 2.2.l which are pathetically slow

Those s10 extremes with the Vortec and the 4.3l are slick though

If you end of getting the extreme dont get it with the afformentioned 2.2l OHV shell out the extra bucks and get the 4.3 Just My OPinion though

and my cavalier aint got sh*t on my IROC

 

I bracket raced against a girl with a 2000 Z24 auto and she ran 15.88's all day long with 0 mods. Not blazing fast but quick enough to beat plenty of third gens. She'd have smoked my old LG4 '84 Z bad, same goes for my old L69 '86 MC SS.

 

This is exactly what I mean and I would even go back a few years before to the ones that had the 3.1 v6. I wouldn't think the 2.8 cavy's are a threat but the twin cam ones will beat an Lg4 and L03 from a roll. The 5 spd ones are even quicker. I have the same motor in my 2001 grand am with a 5 spd and sadly it has more top end than my Lo3 did when it was stock. It pretty much has the same power as an LG4 minus a little less torque but a hell of a lot less curb weight.

 

I had a 2002 Cavalier with 5-speed and no mods and I beat my friend's 88GTA with a 305 TPI... Not by much, but I've won. We tried 3 times. At 120km/h he always finish to pass me... I didn'T loose many times with this cavy, but I had the car only for the summer.

 

All the 03 and 04 Cavalier/Sunfires are the 2.2 Ecotec. Even if it has hubcaps. 02 was the last year of the Z24 and the 2.4 Twin Cam. You could get the Ecotec in the 95-02 Style, only late 02 though. The 95's were not the 2.4 Twin Cam. 95 was the only year the 2.3 Quad 4 was available in the Cavalier.

All the 95-02 Z24's should be in the 15's stock, with a good driver. The 02-04 Ecotecs should be the same. Although not fast, quick, or anything in between, for the car it is, it's not too bad.

 

I raced a 2003 Cavy with the ecotec....

But I was the driver of it. Put a stomping on a 1999 Chevy Extended Cab, Z71 Silverado. Even coming from what I drive, the Cavys aren't "unbearably" slow. But still it isn't super-duper fast or anything...

 

the cavvy's all are dogs...

i would be shocked if they could beat a v6 thirdgen.

 

that 2003 i raced would beat a LO3

 

hydric: my friend got a 2002 Sunfire with the 2.2L and 5 speed... He hand me my a$$ so much it isn't even funny... And they are slow, so imagine how I feel in my V6 89 bird...

 

Forgot to say when I had my 88 GTA with 305 TPI I raced with him and beat him so bad. It was payback time, ah memories...

 

well guys, I'd hafta say, I'd tear a cavalier up with my 305.
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85iroc04ecotec
My tpi is stock and I am almost positive my car is very close to 15.1sec quarter. My service manager has a 2nd gen GSX eclipse and minor head work mostly stock runs 15.1(based off on-board rally computer). We raced from a stop to about 70 and stayed with him whole time. I let start off first though(he quickly spolled to 4500 then dropped the clutch and didnt scratch one tire). I punched merly spinning his rear wheel was at my front wheel the whole time.
I think by quad 4 thing I assumed that it was the same as aleara or whatever. At my shop mechanic said it had similar ignition problems, and others.

 

a sunfire isnt a cavvy. you cannot compare them..

my moms quad 4 sunfire GT is pretty impressive, however i drove/raced all kinds of cavvies... Hence why i made my opinion on them

 

I had a 87 Z24 with the 2.8 5-speed and could beat my friends 88 camaro by 3 car lengths. His camaro had the 2.8 5-speed also.

I dont know what the factory 1/4 time was for the 88 camaro, but I did beat him by 3 car lengths every time. Once I even spun out on take off, he jumped me out of the hole by a car lenght, and I still ran him down and beat him by 3. Of course this was in 91, before import tuning became popular around here.

Of course I didnt have a stock Z24 either. lol.

 

They are the same thing my friend with the same options available. Both are J-bodies with different skins. No different then the comrodery that GM does with all of their platforms. Camaros/Birds, Impallas/grand prixs, etc etc......

 

ditto. http://www.j-body.org will tell you the same.

 

blah...

I know they are the "same thing" but i think a bone dry sunfire would beat a bone dry cavvy...

nevermind me on this one you cavvy lovers/owners, i just hate those cars and I don't know why? For the price of them brand new, the features, and the gas mileage/reliabilty they are good cars

but you didnt hear that from me =]

I love my moms sunfire GT... its pretty slick I think, and I been in regular sunfires... oh well

 

Why?

 

Yea why?
You could literally take every body panel from the cavy and sunfire and swap them. They have the same curb wiehgt and everything. If you had a cavy and a sunfire and someone took the interior out and body panels off you could not tell the two apart.

 

laugh all you want buts its a matter of looks I guess/opinion. i'd much rather own a sunfire then a cavvy...

the biggest reason is i hate every cavvy taht pulls up to me that has a cheap graphic u can buy at advanced and think its a fast car...

I never see a sunfire that tries to be a riicer.

Like i said: "nevermind me on this one you cavvy lovers/owners, i just hate those cars"

i have no solid reason for the sunfire deal, just that I think a sunfire would hang with me better than any type of cavvy...

I hate cavvy's, so yeah i admit i have no solid proof/facts/anything to prove my point cept my opinion.

sorry if you guys are offended by it, but if you want you can wait til summer and get your cavvys out and i'll break out my iroc n just keeping adding them on top of the numerous bunch already there.... just cause u chop off your muffler in a cavvy dont mean you have a fast car n surely dont mean it sounds good... and i'd even place you in my 4-speed 2.5L s-10 that is a dog.

 

Oh I agree completely. This is completely acceptable and is a matter of personal preference. We just though that you were taking the import mentality that because one looks better by choice it must be faster.

The point of these posts was to say that the 2.4L and new Eotecs can hang with stock LO3's and LG4's all day long, and in some cases beat them. I have owned both (cavy and F-bodies)and so has my roomate (who had a modded Z24 5spd) so I speak on what we actually did to the cars. Plus I currently drive the 2.4L 5 spd combo in my grand am. So owning both right now I have an idea. No question who is faster betwen an IROC that wasn't the point. We were compairing them to the HP challenged 305's.

 

Definetly sounded like you were trying to say Sunfires are quicker than Cavaliers. I see just as many riced out Sunfires as I do Cavaliers too. I pick Cavaliers because i'm a Chevy person. Though I drive an 03 Grand Am GT everyday... the significant other gets what she wants At least she let me beat it down the track. 15.8 @ 87 with 5K miles on the odo.

 

sorry for the confusion and the Jump-off the topic at hand.

I have only seen one sunfire pimpd out and to be honest, i liked it. I see cavvies daily.. none the less, kudos

 

My cousin just got a 2004 Cavalier, fully loaded with a 5 speed. It moves pretty darn good!

 

My mother has a 03 Cavy, its not bad. I beat a ZX3 and a Grand Am in it. My friend has a 02 Cavy with a Muffler and a "secret". We raced, along with my friends 87 Iroc L98. We left that poor Cavy behind. Yes I beat the L98, but no he was running like crap. He(cavy guy) ran at the track and barely beat a stock LO3, when we raced I only had a muffler as a mod, and the LO3 was the guys beater as he has a 02 SS.
They can be made fast like any other car, Honda, but stock no prob. Another guy I know had a Z24 01. That little 2.4 Was pretty cool. Better than the Ecotec. He got tired of it and got a S2000.