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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 06:25 PM
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trans am vs 04 altima

I am curious as to who would win, 89 trans am gta (L98) with headers, catback exhaust high flow cats, ported upper intake, shift kit, vs a bone stock 2004 nissan altima 3.5se.
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 07:29 PM
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I'd say get a good launch go for a 1/4 mile or less and call it a day...After that say goodbye and look at his nice new tail lights...I saw an Se R in philly racing and it seemed hella fast, maybe different with the regular 3.5's
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Old Sep 20, 2006 | 07:32 PM
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my sister has a 05 altima SE 3.5 and it is fast as **** it will take down a 96 mustang GT no problem so it might be close but you should have it.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 02:11 AM
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You should definetly have this one covered, I know those Altima's have some power but I would say they're mid 14's at best (around what the 350Z runs) probably slower. If it's bone stock this should be your race, I would put the cars bone stock against each other and you're modded. Make sure you're in tune and give it a try.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 06:10 AM
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They're 14 second cars
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 06:57 AM
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Just make sure you get a good holeshot, and you'll be fine for the 1/4. The cars got a lot of power, but wrong wheel drive can't hook it up. I'd imagine from a roll it would be a lot closer race.
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Old Sep 21, 2006 | 01:26 PM
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If its a manual SE-R altima and the guy can drive, forget it and save your gas.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 12:53 AM
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Where have you ever seen a 350Z run mid 14s? They run low 14s bone stock. 14.2 sec @ 98.2 mph to be exact. Nissan Altima SE-R - 14.8 seconds at 97 mph.

yeah, I'd say you got a shot.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 03:00 AM
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Edgewater Sports Park in Ohio, I saw 2 of them run that day. One ran a 14.5 (bone stock 06 with 22psi in the back tires) and one ran a couple 14.7 (Fairlady Z car with an upper intake, CAI and exhaust). My friend was driving the one that went 14.5 and if it could've went any faster it would have. He's a wizard in a stick shift car. Both of these cars were sporting the 6 speed transmission but his had an open differential (not sure about the Fairlady). The same day I pulled a few 14.0 passes, a 12.7 and a 12.6 (on spray). The track was kind of crappy but not to awful and the 14.5 pass from the 350Z was ran in the good lane.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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There is no Fairlady Z sold in the United States. Nor is there a Fairlady Z made out of the 350Z. The Performance, Enthusiast, Touring, Track, Roadster, and Anniversary edition, are the only models available for the 350Z. Not to mention the overhyped Nismo edition which I believe most know as the Performance edition nowadays.

The Fairlady Z was known to us as the Z cars with the straight 6 engines. There was a Fairlady Z made out of it's predecessor the Z32 300ZX which had a Fairlady edition but those were only sold in Japan. Sorry to tell you this but either your friends car is out of tune or he's not as great with the stick as you thought. I have seen bone stock 350Zs do 14 flat completely stock with different tires.

But the argument wasn't about the 350Z but the Altima SE-R and the answer again is "Yes" you could take him. Oh yeah and by the way, since you use NOS I'm curious to know how big of a shot are you giving it?
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Guro 305
Where have you ever seen a 350Z run mid 14s? They run low 14s bone stock. 14.2 sec @ 98.2 mph to be exact. Nissan Altima SE-R - 14.8 seconds at 97 mph.
Man, I'm not trying to dog on you, but you need to realize how ignorant that statement was. You kinda sound like MotorTrend online right there. Just because you saw one article in one magazine run one 350Z and click off a 14.2 @ 98.2 doesn't mean that's what they run. Between every car being different, driver, weather, track you got a few seconds of variations right there. I've seen a 2003 Mustang Cobra pull 13.6s all night long.

You shouldn't of called that guy out over .3 seconds.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Apparently you only read what you want to read. Why don't you read what I posted.

I clearly said, either "he's not as good of a driver as you thought," giving the car the benefit of the doubt and I said, "maybe his car is out of tune," giving the driver the benefit of the doubt. Note, he did say the car "couldn't give anymore." I, personally have never seen a 350Z run mid 14's, being stick. The numbers I gave you are all number from Nissan which are all number I have seen. Notice the comment made "the SE-R Altima runs mid 14's, same as the 350s." This is certainly not true of either vehicle on the average. Again I go back, if racing a Nissan Altima SE-R, you've got a chance. Race it and find out.

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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 12:56 PM
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No, I read exactly what you wrote. Just take it in stride dude, more experienced members here will know exactly what I'm talking about
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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Fair enough, I'll accept that.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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New 350z run low 14s all day long. I have seen that at the track totally stock running low 14s.These are just average drivers who see little track time but can get good 60fts running this.14.1-14.4 is average.I race them all the time and I can promise with a guy who can drive a stick with some ability that out of 4 passes he will get low 14s at the track.As for the maxiamas they are fast for a 4 door car that weighs 3700+lbs but I don't think that a good running L98 would have to much of a problem.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 03:18 PM
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Thanks zz4monte for proving my exact point. I'm still curious 1991camaroRslow, how much of a shot of nitrous are you putting through that thing?
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Not trying to prove anything just my experience with them at the track.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 04:05 PM
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The car could be a fake but it says right on the back Fairlady Z, I've seen him there twice knocking down the same times so most likely it's the track and not the cars. I only go to Edgewater and everytime I post times I see there everyone wants to argue that the cars had bad drivers or were out of tune, personal opinion Edgewater is out of tune. There 1000 foot marker in the left lane was screwed up one time I was there and would throw the times off pretty bad, next weekend I come back and they just removed it. They also always have a good and a bad lane, one gets VHT and cleaned for the slick cars, the other side will tear your paint up throwing chunks of rubber and grit. I will take pics of that 350Z next time I'm at the track if he's there. Guro as for the nitrous I have a Walbro 255 in tank pump and am spraying the NOS recommended .070 jet on the nitrous side and a .041 on the fuel side, fuel pressure runs around 50PSI no vacuum.
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Old Sep 22, 2006 | 04:46 PM
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You are probably 100% right. The track could be measured wrong, the lanes unkept, lots of possibilities. I've seen it before so it wouldn't surprise me.

That guy with the "fairlady" Z, is probably no different than one of them idiots that has a Type-R badge on a Honda Civic or a SI badge on a Acura Integra, considering those would be backwards respectively or the model they are driving either didn't offer one or was made before the option was available. But they again, what the hell do I know I mean, stickers equal performance right?!

Nice NOS setup by the way. Have you ever had any problems with it? Blown your engine up before or had to do some rebuilds and stuff?

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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 03:37 PM
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Actually my motor is an anomaly of science, I got it from a junk yard with 140,000 miles on it and have put close to 60,000 on it now (speedo didn't work for a while and it has an aftermarket speedo in it now). The car has ate 3 transmissions, and 2 rear ends but I've never had a problem with the engine. I have had some problems with the fuel pump losing pressure from a split line in the tank, but none of the catastrophic melt down's you hear about occured to me, the car just started sputtering on the nitrous run and drove back to the pits just fine. Part of the secret to my success is keeping the plugs new, plug wires in good shape, MSD box, .040 or .035 gap on the plugs, 160 degree Tstat with 2 small holes drilled in the flange, and Rotella T HD 30 motor oil with a little marvel mystery thrown in. The motor looks amazingly clean inside and runs like a top, I'm gunning for a new best this coming Friday with the most recent mods I've done, I'll post up some time slips if I get it. My 2 personal bests to date were 12.54 on nitrous and a 13.84 on motor.
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 03:46 PM
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it will take down a 96 mustang GT no problem
LOL!!! Thats not very hard to do
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Old Sep 23, 2006 | 11:08 PM
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I ran into one on my way home from work this afternoon. A couple of stop lights and he wasn't even bait.

I think it was just the rumble of the V8 that threw him all off.

Whatever.
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