L98 vs 04 Stang GT (AT)
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L98 vs 04 Stang GT (AT)
On my way home tonight, I saw a GT Mustang pulling out of the gas station. I didn't think much about it and just kept my same speed and went by him....not fast. He speeds up to my speed and stays beside for a sec, then he punches it (knowing that I had a car in front of me). When he punches it....I heard it downshift, so I knew it was not a stick. So he goes by and I get behind him, then we go into a turn, but we were not on it....only doing about 60. As the turn straightens out he starts speeding up, then he punshes it again. Now with him ahead of me, he had the momentum and the advantage...cause i did not know when he was going to go. So giving that we were rollong around 60 and he had the move (I was still in same lane behind him) he gets the jump.....here is how it goes:
He hits it and gets a little over a car jump on me, before I hit it. Then I pull into thr right lane and was beside pulling along side him at 80....going by him at 90......about 2 cars ahead of him at 100, then from 100-130......I was about 5-6 cars ahead, then I saw him let off (front end dropped as he hit the breaks to turn around.....lol). The funny part is, as I was going by him it was almost like slow motion....i looked over at him, and then he looked over towards me...I smiled and gave him the head up (like whats up) nod. Then it was like real tiem again, and I was just murdering him......lol. It was cool as S**t. Anyways, another on bites the dust....i wiull have my underdrive pulleys on this weekend.....I am starting to put the bolt ons, on my car.
He hits it and gets a little over a car jump on me, before I hit it. Then I pull into thr right lane and was beside pulling along side him at 80....going by him at 90......about 2 cars ahead of him at 100, then from 100-130......I was about 5-6 cars ahead, then I saw him let off (front end dropped as he hit the breaks to turn around.....lol). The funny part is, as I was going by him it was almost like slow motion....i looked over at him, and then he looked over towards me...I smiled and gave him the head up (like whats up) nod. Then it was like real tiem again, and I was just murdering him......lol. It was cool as S**t. Anyways, another on bites the dust....i wiull have my underdrive pulleys on this weekend.....I am starting to put the bolt ons, on my car.
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Those mustangs never impressed me. Last time I raced one it wasn't even a race - just a slaughter.
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They are pretty slow unless the have heavy mods like cam,intake and heads.Very easy for a L98 with bolt-ons to smoke it. But you also have about 70 more cubes too.130mph on the street?Thats crazy.I would never do that were I live. They take your license away for double the speed limit for 2 years here in Harris county and drag racing you get a $1,000 ticket and it goes on your record as a class 2 mistorminer for 5 years. Even when you get your license back your insurence would be $500+ for a little ford focus. The cops don't joke around here anymore,but etheir way its a good kill.
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Harris County...as in Houston, TX? I lived there for 8 years and used to race off Rankin road all the time. Cops didn't like it much, but we always had big turn outs......lol. Here I am out int he country, and the road I get the most races on is very lightly traveled, but it is 5 lanes wide with long straight aways.
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I used to race there also back from 97-2000 but if you race there now your playing with fire. If there are 200people on goodnight trail they will block off the road and tow every single car to the impound even if you are just a spectator. It got a little crazy were every kid in a stock civic would be racing down 1960 doing 100mph in rush hour traffic. It really needed to be stopped it was getting out of hand and alot of people were getting killed,but I hear it still goes on a much smaller scale.Sorry off topic.
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A stocker with an auto is really nothing fast. At best low 14s, and with a few bolt ons maybe high 13s. A stick car is a little better if driven right, but if driven wrong could be slower. Our 06 GT would put a good hurting on a stock 99-04 GT, so they have done better with the newer ones!
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I agree, cause the 06 GT's I have raced...we would be even up to 80-100 mph, then I would start pulling on them....this stang, it wasn't even close. I did get in a race again that same night with around an 89 GT. This one was built though and a 5 speed. He jumped me off the line by about 1-1/2 cars and it stayed that way pretty much through 90 mph, then from 90 on I was creeping on him, till I got up beside him and he let off before I could pass him. Notables are that he did go before I did (no honks or anything) and I had a passenger and he didn't. I wanted to go again, but he had turned around and I could ot find him. That was fun though....difinately more fun than the 04......I should have my underdrive pulleys on this weekend and getting 3.73s in the next week or so....hope that helps.
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I wouldnt say that 89 was "built", unless the owner has no idea what hes doing. A non built one can go deep 12s or better, and a HCI should be faster than that. Unless your idea of built differs from mine
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ok, I shouldn't have used the word built...I was meaning it as non stock. It had a cam in it and it had open exhaust....cause I could hear the lope (sp?) and the exhaust was loud. Other than that I doubt it had much else. Cause it it had heads and stuff like that....it would have walked me. So I guess I should say it was not stock...that better?.......lol
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Yeah, just to me I hear built and then stock Fbody walking it, I kinda wonder. A cammed stocker with exhaust and bolt ons though, yeah easily believable!
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Yeah, "built" has many different meanings to many different people...but then again so does "stock"...![Wink](https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
I know my old stock cammed 89LX ran 12.40@110 first time to the track...and I shift like Grandma...![Frown](https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/images/smilies/frown.gif)
Hooked OK though.![lmao](https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/images/smilies/lmao.gif)
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I know my old stock cammed 89LX ran 12.40@110 first time to the track...and I shift like Grandma...
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Hooked OK though.
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I agree stock does as well, and some people take that word and make it something it isnt. I see people talking about GT40 heads, Cobra intakes and all kinds of work as stock, merely because they came on some mustang in some year. To me stock is stock, stock motor is a stock intake to oil pan motor...
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I love the grey area's on what people consider bolt ons. I had a local kid try to tell me he had a stock 355, I about died laughing. Car had a single plane intake, Holley carb, MSD distributor, and obviously NON stock pistons and probably different heads. I beat him in my honest to God stock TPI 350. To me stock means the heads have never came off the motor and it sports the same induction it had originally (or identical replacements). I have the stock TPI, stock distributor (wired to an MSD 6 box) stock oil pan with a big dent in it and of course STOCK ROTATING ASSEMBLY. To keep on topic a friend of mine has a 98 Mustang with a PI intake that he considers stock, I don't really consider it stock because an LT1 intake on my car wouldn't be called stock but hey whatever floats his boat, we race together alot so i help him play that one off
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when my coupe had it's original 172K mile engine still under the hood, complete with stock "headers" (stock aod and converter as well), people on other sites disputed it was still "stock", since it had every bolt-on I could throw at it. FWIW, I never claimed it to be a stock car, just that it had a completely stock engine, from throttle body to oil pan to headers...suspension work and weight removal don't count...
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sorry to get off topic...
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thats what i like to hear i had a 05 v6 car think it had something he lined against me in a 2000 ls1 t56 and it had the gt kit on it with an exhaust so i was like ok hes going down all i know is i pulled 8 legnths on him from a red light by the time iwas done with 2nd gear
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Technically my car only has a few parts that arent off a stock Ford vehicle. Besides the exhaust, MAF, and CAI, everything else can be found on a Ford Vehicle of some vintage!
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If it didn't come on YOUR car from the factory (or a car with the exact same engine code), then it isn't stock. Stock for somebody else yah, but not for you.
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LOL, I call it stock....
j/k I dont ever call the car stock, its not. But its cheap to grab parts off junkyard cars and run fast. We have a GT40P (explorer) headed stock bottem end car that went 7.481 @ 90.33 in the 1/8th. I call it a glorified explorer motor,
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j/k I dont ever call the car stock, its not. But its cheap to grab parts off junkyard cars and run fast. We have a GT40P (explorer) headed stock bottem end car that went 7.481 @ 90.33 in the 1/8th. I call it a glorified explorer motor,
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It is a lot of fun to see how fast you can run with mostly stock parts. I definitely would like to run an 11.99 on motor before pulling the E7's off my lx. Should be there with this winter's mods, but we'll see.
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I might try that with ported E7s and a stock cam. I just need suspension and some cool air to see what it really has in it (oh yeah and I need to actually port the heads).
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ok I now have the following installed:
underdrive Pulleys
MSD 6AL box
MSD Blaster 3 Coil
And next week my SLP runners should be in. Putting the SLP runners on the car will turn it back into a fully SLP optioned car, like it was originally.
The box and the coil....does that add power or just make it run smoother?
underdrive Pulleys
MSD 6AL box
MSD Blaster 3 Coil
And next week my SLP runners should be in. Putting the SLP runners on the car will turn it back into a fully SLP optioned car, like it was originally.
The box and the coil....does that add power or just make it run smoother?
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Just makes it run smoother and will provide a hotter spark; you only need a hotter spark when you increase the cylinder pressure (nitrous, forced induction, higher compression).
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WOW.
Best Ive seen stock Auto Edge GT's pull is mid 14's......usually 9.3's or slower....on a perfect day. 5 speed Edge GT'scan go low low 14's/high 13's stock all day, just according to the driver.
Now, to my fellow Fox Body guys.....WTF are you guys doing to make those E7's work so well with minimal work? My E7's were a NOTICEABLE restriction in my old setup. I had a cam, Cobra intake, 3.73's, exhaust, DR's, and some cheapy control arms and best I could go was an 8.64@79MPH 1.80 60 ft. I didnt urn slicks but I KNOW slicks would have given me THAT much. That was with FULL weight....15x7 heavy rims, full bottle in the back and AC. Stock TB, STOCK SCREENED MAF, and stock Air intake tube.....WTF???
anyways I was just curious...next setup is gonna be a carb'd 302...P heads, same ole Lunati cam, LT's, and thats bout it. BETTER GO 7's ON MOTOR!!!!!
Best Ive seen stock Auto Edge GT's pull is mid 14's......usually 9.3's or slower....on a perfect day. 5 speed Edge GT'scan go low low 14's/high 13's stock all day, just according to the driver.
Now, to my fellow Fox Body guys.....WTF are you guys doing to make those E7's work so well with minimal work? My E7's were a NOTICEABLE restriction in my old setup. I had a cam, Cobra intake, 3.73's, exhaust, DR's, and some cheapy control arms and best I could go was an 8.64@79MPH 1.80 60 ft. I didnt urn slicks but I KNOW slicks would have given me THAT much. That was with FULL weight....15x7 heavy rims, full bottle in the back and AC. Stock TB, STOCK SCREENED MAF, and stock Air intake tube.....WTF???
anyways I was just curious...next setup is gonna be a carb'd 302...P heads, same ole Lunati cam, LT's, and thats bout it. BETTER GO 7's ON MOTOR!!!!!
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Our GT40P motor just went 7.48 in the 1/8th and it is NOT an 1/8 motor. We have to shift it into 4th about 100' before the line. This is a simplae P motor, stock cam, Cobra intake and bolt ons...
My E7s have a little done, no porting though, and is backed with a stock cam, cobra intake and all the bolt ons. Car only went 13.0 with bolt ons, before I ever took the heads off, so it wasnt that fast!
My E7s have a little done, no porting though, and is backed with a stock cam, cobra intake and all the bolt ons. Car only went 13.0 with bolt ons, before I ever took the heads off, so it wasnt that fast!
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WOW.
Best Ive seen stock Auto Edge GT's pull is mid 14's......usually 9.3's or slower....on a perfect day. 5 speed Edge GT'scan go low low 14's/high 13's stock all day, just according to the driver.
Now, to my fellow Fox Body guys.....WTF are you guys doing to make those E7's work so well with minimal work? My E7's were a NOTICEABLE restriction in my old setup. I had a cam, Cobra intake, 3.73's, exhaust, DR's, and some cheapy control arms and best I could go was an 8.64@79MPH 1.80 60 ft. I didnt urn slicks but I KNOW slicks would have given me THAT much. That was with FULL weight....15x7 heavy rims, full bottle in the back and AC. Stock TB, STOCK SCREENED MAF, and stock Air intake tube.....WTF???
anyways I was just curious...next setup is gonna be a carb'd 302...P heads, same ole Lunati cam, LT's, and thats bout it. BETTER GO 7's ON MOTOR!!!!!
Best Ive seen stock Auto Edge GT's pull is mid 14's......usually 9.3's or slower....on a perfect day. 5 speed Edge GT'scan go low low 14's/high 13's stock all day, just according to the driver.
Now, to my fellow Fox Body guys.....WTF are you guys doing to make those E7's work so well with minimal work? My E7's were a NOTICEABLE restriction in my old setup. I had a cam, Cobra intake, 3.73's, exhaust, DR's, and some cheapy control arms and best I could go was an 8.64@79MPH 1.80 60 ft. I didnt urn slicks but I KNOW slicks would have given me THAT much. That was with FULL weight....15x7 heavy rims, full bottle in the back and AC. Stock TB, STOCK SCREENED MAF, and stock Air intake tube.....WTF???
anyways I was just curious...next setup is gonna be a carb'd 302...P heads, same ole Lunati cam, LT's, and thats bout it. BETTER GO 7's ON MOTOR!!!!!
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edit: My times were on MT radials.
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