I raced a 2002 GT from a 10 mph roll tonight and he pulled away at 60-70 mph. I was actually suprised he didnt just blaze by me the second i stomped the petal.. Its funny to see how the l03 has no top end power whatsoever.

2002 GT
5-Speed

1992 Heritage Edition Camaro
3.42
Full exhaust

 

Not bad man.

 

good kill, from a 30 roll my 92 put only 3 cars on my 6 shooter stang

 

Wow a 15+ second car walked a low 14 second car... you must be a hell of a driver!

 

Uhh, where did he say he walked him?

 

OOps read it to say he walked away from the Mustang... Sorry been sick lately, I guess I become dislexic when Im under the weather!

 

lol....well it is only a 4.6 after all...and iver never seen a stock GT run under a 14.8....the LO3 is capable of running middle to higher 15's so theres really not a whole lot of difference....

now take that same GT engine a year later in the cobra and add that SC and your looking at a high 12 second car....the 03/04 sc cobras are just plain sick

 

Hmm I have seen 13.8s out of bone stockers in good conditions, and many low low 14s out of them... I have never seen an LO3 run at the track, and even if I did wouldnt really notice it. I dont think you can call a mid to high 15 second car vs a mid 14 second car not a lot of difference, its a pretty big difference if you ask me??

An 03 Cobra bone stock is a mid to high 12 second car and with bolt ons, easy 11s all day. They are pretty sick cars as far as performance per dollar ratio!

 

Try 13.9 @ 99 on the stock goodyears in an automatic '01 GT...or 14.0 @ 98 on the stock goodyears in a 5-speed '02 GT...or 13.5 @ 99 on a drag radial with a stock 5 speed '02 GT...yea...those were all cars that came out of my garage. If I ran slower than a 14.2 in a stock 99 - 04 GT I'd turn in my driver's license.

 

please if i ever lost to a GT id turn in my lisence....yall are out of your minds to think that a stock gt can run under a 14

 

You don't spend much time at the track, do you? The '99-'04 GT's are high 13's - low 14's stock.

 

a GT running high 13s is like an LS1 running 12s, it happens, but only rarely with the right driver and track conditions, new edges (99-04) are low to mid 14 second cars the S-197s (05-07s) are high 13 second cars, the SN-95 (94-98) are high 14 or low 15 second cars with either the 5.0 or the crappy 4.6

 

lmao...I've done it myself, so I must be out of my mind for thinking I really did it. My dad has done it, guess he's out of his mind too? One of my best friend's has done it, must mean he's out of his mind. WTH would ever make you think that a car that traps between 98 - 100 mph stock couldn't run in the 13's with someone who knows what they're doing behind the wheel? You want to say someone else is out of their mind? GTFO, that's ignorant.
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Had to quote this to reiterate how much you know about the other side lmao! Just stop talking...

 

Personally, I've seen a lot more GT's running high 13's than LS1's running high 12's. Stock that is but I'm running at near sea level with decent track prep so...

 

Thats funny I too have seen a few stock 99+ GTs go 13s, yet have never seen an LS1 stock do 12s.

Also the S197s, we own one that went 13.9 in crappy air, 2500-3000 foot elevation with a passenger. At the last track event in better conditions the beams got screwed up by a leaf, but going off the timers that did work, the best run should have been about a 13.5!

I have been to the track more than most people my age and have probably seen more Mustangs run than any other car (no questions asked), so Im pretty sure I have a decent idea of what they can and cannot do!

 

LOL LOL LOL Stop talking. You dont know ANYTHING about Mustangs...

If you did, you'd know 96-04 GT's came with 2 VALVE SOHC motors while 96-04 Cobras/Mach 1's came with 4 VALVE DOHC motors.

Stop now...please

 

But they're both 4.6's, so that must mean they're the same engine!

 

You kids need to grow up and get a clue!

 

Yeah and my car's 5.0 must be the same 5.0 thats in the 83 Mustang GT LOL LOL LOL LOL

What a douche.

 

Wow you're a tool.

 

I guess he decided to stop posting after getting called out on not having a clue?

 

Up hear I never seen a newer mustang hit under a 14.0 . But I am around 800-1000 ft ..... We got one banging 9's with a vortech T trim though Seen a coupel LS1's hit 13.0 flat ... but thats it . One of them car mags had an LS1 doing 12.9's stock ... just a good driver.

Screw the new mustanges ...I am in love with them 1988 notchbacks . Dam they are sweet .

 

Yeh they're quick if you mod them right and get alot of traction. That's the real key to ETing with those things because they don't have alot of top-end so getting a good trap speed is hard. You have to squeak everything out of them.

Example, I raced one the other night (light bolton 01 5-sp GT), he ran high 13s at 98 with tires and i pulled him hard on the freeway. With a 50 shot he only trapped 103... I'd still pull him. With some good traction and good shifting im sure he could see a 12.9 with that 50 shot.

They're quick but you NEED that good traction to ET with them. I agree with the poster above - stock GTs running 13s is like LS1s running 12s. It happens but it's rare and requires a good driver. With just tires GTs should be able to hit high 13s without a problem. But like I said, they still trap low.

 

Well its a LOT more common for a GT to go 13s than an LS1 to go 12s. I have seen a bunch of 13s out of GTs, never seen a 12 out of an LS1, even Vettes and Firehawks!

 

Ummmm a heavily modded L03 wouldnt hang with a stock 5.0 much less a 4.6 GT trust me i know

 

With those traps, I'd say no bolt-ons other than tires and the Nitrous. There's a guy I know locally running times/traps similar to 25th with a Bullitt Intake, Full exhaust, 4.XX gears, weight reduction, ET Streets and skinnies. It's a 5-spd also. I'll also say it again, MUCH more common to see high 13's in a stock GT than high 12's in a stock LS1 F-body!

 

He had shorty headers, xpipe, mufflers and a cai. I think he said free mods as well but I dont know what the free mods are.

I'm not saying they can't ET well, because I know they can. I'm saying they trap low for what they are. Foxes out run them easily from what I've seen. 25ths traps are odd enough for a fox body, but I'd be very surprised to see a bolton GT hitting the same. My car with light bolt ons almost does 106 and I've - NEVER - lost to a 99-04 GT. Not saying it won't happen but it hasn't so far

 

They seem to trap OK to me. As a matter of fact, they seem to trap and ET comparable to the LT1 F-bodies. This is merely my track experience and what I read in forums like Drag Racing Technique over at CamaroZ28. Currently, there's a thread over there with several pages of LT1 numbers and it appears that high 13's to mid 14's is the norm for stockers with traps around 97-101.
As for never losing, you must not race much. The car I mentioned above has run a best of 12.6 @ 107 with a 1.6 60 ft. There a ton of faster ones locally, more mods of course.

 

I too have seen a few bolt on ones trapping 105+. Knew a couple guys down in Jersey running in the lower 12s with a lot of weight out, all the bolt ons and gearing to do so. Cars were trapping 110+ and even before a lot of the mods were well into the 12s with none of the weight removed and more streetable. The 2Vs are pretty weak motors, but can move with the right set of mods, exhaust and gearing!

 

I race every friday and saturday

I guess you guys have faster mustangs than we do

 

This is probably all you'll ever need/want to know about the 2V cars:

http://forums.modulardepot.com/showt...&threadid=1877

 

I actually do probably race with faster Mustangs than most. I run mainly Mustang only events, and at these you get hundreds and hundreds of them. Within those hundreds, there are always ones running good times!

 

It's pretty much the same everywhere. You've got 90 percent of the owners that slap a CAI and Cat-back on or just leave it stock. Then there's the 10 percent that actually take the time to research what does and what doesn't work and builds accordingly. This goes for everything, not just Mustangs.

 

Well if you never seen a stock 12 second vette ... something wrong their . They are banging low 12's stock . Oh sorry thats the Z06 with 395 hp ( when they first came out. But yes the normal vettes run 12's all the time up here. ( at 800-1000 ft)

 

Fool, pull your head out. You're always around mustangs of course you going to say that.

I've never seen a stock 1999-2004 GT go faster then 14.5

 

I run with Mustangs, so I see tons and tons of them... this is why I see 13s out of stockers, 12s out of bolt on cars, and all kinds of fast stuff. I dont see how that would make what I say LESS valid, should make it more so.

I have never seen a stock Vette go 12. I havent seen a lot of them run, but one ran a 13.8 as a best (I was racing him pretty much all night) and a few others in the low 13s.

A well driven older Z06 could run 11s, the new ones low 11s!

 

Theres actually a guy that has went into the 10's on just drag radials!

Sigh.....2 valves go high 13's driven hard. Not a hard concept to grasp. I just dont understand the "Superiority Complex" soooo many Mustang and f-body guys have over one another....

 

I know all about the guy who went 10.85 on DRs. He also went 11.81 in an older Z06 bone stock and 11.5 with DRs. FAST cars!

 

ive seen em go a little faster, never into the 13s though, unless your talkng about the s197s, its very rare to even hear of new edges breaking the 13s, and im the #6 poster on one of the worlds biggest mustang site and if you ask them, they would say it is rare for them to do 13s and conditions must be perfect

 

What is considered the worlds biggest Mustang site, and why would an Fbody guy be the number 3 poster?

Oh well not going to make non believers understand, so who really cares. If you think mid 14s, think mids 14s, and if I think high 13s, then Ill think high 13s!

 

http://www.mustangforums.com/ its number 6 not 3

im not brand loyal to anyone all cars have their perks and disadvantages why is a mustang owner on a third gen site?


im not thinking mid 13s, but times for an average driver in a new edge is low 14s, ya there is freaks that get 13s but its rare, unless its a 4V or s197

 

Came here to help a cousin out with his car and stayed. As far as mid 13s, not for a new edge car, but 13.8-13.9 with a good driver isnt too hard to run. Our S197 went high 13s in crappy air with a passenger on the drivers first and only pass.

 

No offense intended, but that site isn't exactly known for it's knowledgeable member base.

Regarding the discussion at hand, yes, it's very possible, however, those who are skilled enough to put a 99 - 04 GT into the 13's stock are the same ones who rarely leave them stock for more than 1 or 2 track outings. I went 14.0 on the stock goodyears my 2nd time out in almost 1700' DA in my '02 GT. It took about 8 passes total to get there, but I never made another run on the stock tires after that. I'm pretty confident that in better air it would have been easily doable. It took a friend of mine probably 30 - 40 passes to get there, but he was running consistent 13.90's in his stock '00 GT. His is still stock to this day. Your average guy out there though, I'd think 14.2 - 14.4 is more realistic.