Originally Posted by shortyskater

I would rather invest in a LS1 and still walk you with no upgrades to it.

Originally Posted by shortyskater

I would rather invest in a LS1 and still walk you with no upgrades to it.

Originally Posted by ninetyone

Tell you what anyone is welcome to bring their little Honda that has a mere $400 of mods against my L98 tpi with a mere $400 worth of mods. I live in lower De. We will see who wins. Hehe

Originally Posted by Six_Shooter

Did you edit this because you know that someone would be able to do it?

Originally Posted by ninetyone

No, i did that to save space for ignorant comments from people like you.

Originally Posted by shortyskater

And to just to clear somethings up. You were right on a few things. I do still live at home since I just graduated college. College is where you go after highschool to gain a degree in a certain field, if you didnt know that because I dont think you attended. I have yet to pull a motor im my "momma's" driveway. But you were also wrong on a few other things. My friends dont drive Honda's. More like supra's, bmw's, '12 Boss 302's, mercedes, to name a few. Second, a weeks paycheck won't buy me an exhaust, more like a days worth of work would. And if you wish to talk money, a months worth will buy me a full LS1/T-56 swap, suspension upgrade and brand new Moser rearend to be exact. Years pay is probably what you make in 3 years.

Now are you done failing at life and people ****ing all over you?

Originally Posted by whitedevilTA

You sir, are a F*#^ing idiot. The douchbaggery is unparalleled with you, and somehow you always find ways to make fun of someone for sticking up for imports, whether they were being polite to you or not. Please remove the stick from your @** and come to reality.....you did not run 13's in a 350 TPI for $400, your 350 TPI sorry to say was one of the slowest V8's made, and modern V6 cars will ussually take a 350 TPI car. I don't know what is so hard to understand about the fact that you do NOT need a turbo in a jap car to go fast. They have this little secret where they ussually weigh nothing and THAT is what gives them thier speed, not engine HP. You are so clueless on the matter it's not even funny. I'm starting to get sick of this thread since you are obviously never going to learn a damn thing.

Originally Posted by midias

I remember weighing my buddies 1992 Civic VX b18c1 swap ~1750 lbs full interior. Not a bad car very basic power nothing not even power steering.

Originally Posted by project89

damn my v6 car wieghs 3455 without me and im 220 pounds.but hell low low 12's at that wieght is damn good, and it still needs some tuning.
car is setup to run in upwards of 21 pounds of boost though.but damn at 1750 pounds i bet i could crack 9's without ever cranking the boost up

Originally Posted by ninetyone

You sure it weighs that? Mine came in at 3401 to be exact, and mine was previously a TBI L03 car.

Originally Posted by project89

yeah im sure that was wieghed on my racetracks scale.alot of my intercooler tubing is heavy walled steel tubing. and a good section of my downpipe is actually 3 inch dom driveshaft tubing since i ran out of reg ex tubing.

one of these days ill switch over to aluminum tubing and stuff but at the time i just used what i had on hand.

not to mention the stereo **** in the car and other stuff. i built the car as a daily driver so it has everything in it but ac. i could prolly knock about 500 pounds out of it pretty easy

and i belive the average v6 car wieghs in around 32xx

Originally Posted by Street Lethal

Dave, you still have that car....?

Originally Posted by Street Lethal

Rodney & Ted Derikson's TTA has gone 10.80's with an essentially stock TTA. From what I understand it is said to hold 8 NHRA records....

Originally Posted by IROCZZ3

Originally Posted by IROCZZ3

Is that with the stock turbo also? Either way thats pretty impressive!

Originally Posted by stealthroc89

Low 13 + 2 car lengths =high 14 1/4 time. G92 equipped L98's had 245hp in the later years, as we all know, but you group all L98's in the 14.5 1/4mi range. Why? Not all came with the better gearing. Most were running 15's on average, hate to say that, but it is the truth

Originally Posted by project89

me and street lethal both personally watched a stock turbo grand national break go well into the 10's so im sure a tta could go a bit faster then the flying brick with the same turbo

Originally Posted by project89

Originally Posted by ninetyone

I have seen GN's do 8's in the 1/4 with stage 4 turbo. I don't doubt it.

Originally Posted by ninetyone

Plus do you really think a Honda with fart pipe is a cool car? They in no way resemble a muscle car. If that was the case then why do you basically only see old 60's and 70's muscle on the drag strip? Hmmm. i don't see any of those guys selling their Chevelles for a Civic. They use old v8's! That is how it is. Sorry

Originally Posted by ninetyone

Thirdgen's are also great to modify for the strip, they are light cars. Most of us on here would not even entertain the idea of using or building a Honda or Dsm for the dragstrip. Come on, if that is how you feel,then you need to be posting your stuff on the Honda boards

Originally Posted by ninetyone

Hey bud,don't worry about how i decide to post. What have you got a mere 785 posts on this website?

Originally Posted by ninetyone

Modern v6 cars often can take an L98? what was wrong with your L98?

Originally Posted by ninetyone

tell ya what, you go ahead and ask another member on here named ShadowZ. We both raced our cars. He has an 01 Mustang with exhaust,373, and a tune. I believe he is well into the 13's easily. We raced and he did get me by a few cars in the end,but i was not that far behind. Maybe about 2 car lengths at the end. Remember (i have 2.73's) and he will attest to that ,and the Pontiac v6 GTP supercharged that tried to get in on the action on our second race. I actually slowed down for it and walked it again! three times. So for only spending $400, i think that is a great value and choice in parts/mods i have come up with. You believe what you want, but i am sorry most of you have that little faith in your thirdgen car. goodnight.

Originally Posted by ninetyone

Bs , each car space is close to a tenth of a second. So, why am i beating cars that run high 13's low 14's then? You tell me. Maybe his Mustang is faster than low 13's? 2 car spaces and a low 13 does not equal a high 14 for the other car. 2 car spaces is not a full second difference.

Originally Posted by whitedevilTA

I don't believe for one second that you actually removed your cam to have it reground rather than just putting a much better aftermarket cam in since there is a lot involved in a cam swap. That would be such a waste of time.

Originally Posted by project89

actually this is quite common ive done it myself, though the company who does the regrind will just send u out a reground cam, and then u send back ur stock cam for a core.

my one cam was a 260 grind that comp cams offered i had a cam regound to its specs with the addition of 2*lsa for my turbo v6 total cost for cam and lifters was 100 bucks

the identical setup from comp cams was damn near 250, so i saved 150 bucks

Originally Posted by whitedevilTA

I believe it can be done. It just seems like a waste of time when there are so many great aftermarket cams available. Is there any benefit to it other than the slightly cheaper cost? Because I spent $160 on my comp cams cam for my old 305. I would just much prefer a brand new cam when going through all that work to change it!

Originally Posted by project89

its mainly the cost factor now i agree if u can pick up an off the shelf cam that works for ur app the cost difference isnt much.but some cams are 2even 3 hundredd bucks so u can get the same cam at a fraction of the cost. not to mention u can customize the cam to ur specs if u want and it dont cost anymore

Originally Posted by midias

I am confused why are people insulting vtec. Variable valve timing kicks ***. I love driving a car that does not fall flat on its face when you hit high rpms. The idea of 2 cams is awesome. It is now in use by every major car manufacturer in the world. Honda jsut happen to do it in mass production in 1989

Originally Posted by whitedevilTA

Half the cars at my local dragstrip on any given day are import cars. There is a huge import scene where I live and people make them fast. Much faster than a stock 3rd gen. And no I don't think a fartcanned honda is cool...now a built one, yes it is cool.



I love my third gen...thats why I built it. But any car can make a great drag car with a good setup. Slicks make a world of difference on a FWD.



So a post count makes you smarter huh? Guess by your logic you should be agreeing with everything I say then.



I never had an L98. My car came with a 305, and rather than go with another engine that would have taken thousands and thousands of dollars to get it where I wanted, I got an LSx.



You've brought this story up like 10 times. Is his mustang the only car you have ever raced? If so, you shouldn't be talking like a know it all. No offense to shadowZ because he seems to know his stuff, but that year mustang was one of the slowest ones ever made. They ran mid 14's stock. Hes got work into his and it runs pretty good, but he still beat you, and you make fun of imports? Like I said, 13's are NOT fast anymore. Quick, but def not fast for a performance vehicle.

I still want a list of every part done to your car because I don't believe for one second that you actually removed your cam to have it reground rather than just putting a much better aftermarket cam in since there is a lot involved in a cam swap. That would be such a waste of time.

Originally Posted by project89

there is no suck thing as a stage 4 turbo.there is on the other hand a thing called stage motors for the tta and gn and turbo regal though

Originally Posted by ninetyone

The slowest v8's ever made were from the smog era (1974-1983) and yes the
GM CFI and the L03 were some of the slower "later model " engines,but they have potential. So, get your facts straight bud. Modern v6 cars do not often take L98 350s. LOL

Originally Posted by project89

there is no suck thing as a stage 4 turbo.there is on the other hand a thing called stage motors for the tta and gn and turbo regal though

Originally Posted by shortyskater

Because that's all that was around when they were growing up and its all they grew to know/learn. They know the insides and outs of those cars just like some know all there is about imports. Once again, your post makes no sense.

And to comment on you $400 to go fast statement. Someone made a post for you to make a list of parts to equal $400 to get your car into the 13's. You have yet to do that. To make a car go from low 15's/ high 14's to the 13 second range for $400 or less is rediculous if not impossible. Exhaust alone runs you $300 or more. Once again, you are an idiot.

And out of your mod list, gaurentee the PO added 97% of it and you take credit for it.

Originally Posted by kmcn47

hey thats my slow engine your talking about there but find me an engine thats been made longer and one from 84 that still starts up everytime and runs strong after 223,xxx miles

Originally Posted by ninetyone

Yeah well, the Japanese didn't invent it in the first place. Honda wasn't the first Auto manufacturer to use it in mass production either.

Originally Posted by ninetyone

Plenty of cars with stage 4 turbo. Come on man, i was into turbocharging in 1996. How old were you then?

Originally Posted by ninetyone

Good point man, and for the record there are people on this board with over 300k miles running 13's. These are good motors.

Originally Posted by Six_Shooter

:facepalm:

I guess that comes from Fast and Furious, tell me, what is a "stage 4 turbo"?

Stages, for actors and ricers.

So what happens if I was into turbocharging in 1994?

Originally Posted by ninetyone

Stage 4 turbo consists of "bigger replacement turbo", along with the ecu/pcm being re-programmed. The use of huge injectors and an intercooler. It varies from vehicle to vehicle depending on what other mods are necessary to support.