so whats with EVERYONE wanting spots and hits lately? I used to be when you ran a friend and just to make it close now its all I flippin hear and am asked for.. WTF they call me out and want spots?

 

WTF are spots and hits?

 

im guessing its setup street races, thats all i can figure.

edit, evermind i dont think what i said is what he means

 

spots = they want a car length start ( two spots = two car lengths ect)

Hit = means they hit the gas first or start first

I find it so dumb but its the norm now and even when its close they are all happy and proud??? My GF was like wtf id be embarrassed to ask for a head start.

I let the one guy with the 5.4 lightening get the hit and one spot. for a value meal at MCdonalds. I spun ALOT but still managed to hooked the middle of second and reeled him in just in time to pass him befor the marked 1/4 mile

and I was having issues with my tune,, found out it was cold enough to toss a ses for my MAF high flow..

 

Ahhhh OK, I kinda figured what the spots were...had no idea on the hits lol.

 

Maybe they've watched to many episodes of Pinks? Spots and Hits? WTF? I'd laugh at someone if they asked me for that....

 

oy. Do they live their lives 1/4 mile at a time?

You race what you brung. Same line, same starting. If you are slow on the gas, or if your car can't hookup, that's your problem, not mine.

it's like the "Well, I can only race from a 35mph rolling start" guys. So your car is entirely top end, and has no torque off the line, eh?

I know back when I was hanging out with guys who would do thousands of dollars of damage to their deuces and such at the track every weekend, trying to coax that last half second out of it, anyone asking for spots, hits, or rollies would be laughed at, if not doused in beer and sent home to Mom.

 

I dont get it but they all do it now.. to be honest i think its because alot of them race the chicago group

it bugs me i guess because they act so proud of how the race ends.. heck my one friend lost but barely. gave a fox body a hit and spot same way. they think the stang is the **** now WTF? he had a head start and barely barely won im thinking looks like your strip car you have on the street isnt really that fast imo


could just be a ford thing needs spots form a gm ??

 

Where in Wisconsin are you located? I might be interested in a heads up race with you. Not on the street though. I race at WIR, but I am thinking of going to a GLD RSD.

 

Give me the hit, spot me 3, and I still win if you don't beat me by 5...

 

Spots and hits sound stupid, either your car is fast or not. If my buddy with a 4cyl Toyota Echo wanted to race me, there would be no mercy! He asked for it.

 

Yea thats pretty dumb. When my group sets up races between us, we generally try to match cars that are close in 1/4 mile times or weight and HP to get a nice close run. If you just randomly run into some joe shmo on the street though, it's run what ya brung, no ifs ands or buts. I hate excuses.

 

It is part of the game, people that ask for land and the move are usually scared of getting whooped.

 

We have the same "askings" here in TX. Only we call it "the start" or "the move" or "who's honking?" if we are roll racing... and lengths, not spots. But I dont street race so I have no idea what the hell your talking about!

Thats a potential felony in Texas!

 

Its not a race unless its heads up or around a track or road course. If someone has an advantage than whats the point. You will never find out who is top dog as far as builds go if you race with "spots" and "hits". It sounds very silly to me. We used to race with car lengths but only when considering a drivers race or when you wanted to show off you would give someone car lengths, when you one it would make you look that much better.

Well said.

 

some people watch too much damn TV. If you don't have the confidence in your car to race heads up then don't race at all.

 

Sounds to me like the hondas are tring to make things fair....

 

So, you gonna give me two and the move? 3 and the roll? Heads up and the go? LOL

40 roll third honk? LOL

It is a misdemeanor still here in TX.

 

This is why I find the TV show "Pinks" a crap car show! Rich Christianson was a nobody before the show, I have never heard of him building a damn thing or racing anything for that matter. If you cant build it yourself, then whats the point? I can see a talented driver racing professionally, but for the class of cars on that show, buiding your own toy is the ONLY way to go. Giving lenghts, getting the "start" and all that is just complete BULLS H I T. The funny thing is, he is still on some sort of power trip like he has done something for the automotive industry! Yeah right... Rich Christianson, your a joke! Get your own car and put your money where your mouth is!
Has anyone seen him race his own car on the show?
Has anyone heard of him before the show?
Has anyone seen or heard of an engine or car he built?
Has anyone else noticed he is a *****?

Sorry guys, just had to get that off my chest.

 

AMEN BROTHER!!!! I cant stand that guy. It seems like he dosent know crap but he thinks he is pro

 

U ain't lyin that guy is a piece of **** who ruins racing out of all the pinks episodes I've seen there was only one instance where they raced heads up every race and it was two older guys I wanna say mid 50's running a couple 9 second cars he asked the guy that lost how many lengths do you want the old guy looked at him like wtf are u stupid.. heads up. If I ever meet him I'm kicking him square in that space where his ********* might have been at one point

 

Has anyone noticed he's bald?

 

I hate to hijack your thread OP, but this sort of has some relevance? Can I get a pass? lol I just cant resist!

 

If you dont like giving/taking the move or negotiating land, you evidently dont street race. If you are in a car that you know runs 13.00 in the quarter, but a guy that wants to race you runs 12s, you might have no choice but to take a couple lengths, or them move or the combination of both. Hell, i give nearly everyone the move and the suck them up and pass them. Otherwise, it would not be fun racing someone that you know heads up will be sitting still when you hit it.

 

What? Let me get this crap straight! I used to live in H town, raced on rankin rd many times, been to westheimer many times, ran on the beltway, 45, and 610! I have NEVER seen anything like that go down in Houston! Not saying it hasnt happened because anything is possible, but most of the racing I saw was from a dig there. Here in Austin, its NOT like that either! We have underground racing lambo's, blown LSX vettes, Camaros and Firebirds, KB Cobras, STi's, DSM's etc and its always an even start. If you lose you lose! Most of the time we have a pretty good idea who is going to win anyway, but we still run for the hell of it. How the slower vehicle holds up is usually the topic unless it gets whipped so hard the winning vehicle is immediately set up with another race. Dont even tell me about never have been a racer! I have the "Racing on a public highway" Williamson County Probationer ID card to prove it! Want to see? It says it right on there... I did my prob. and I get 1 more chance if caught and then its a felony! So I have 1 strike out of 3! I have been street racing since I was 15 where I was LEGAL under a hardship license from having a single parent! Not only that but I have worked in a few local performance shops tuning, building and what not... Having to give a length happens, but that doesnt mean I have to like it or would even do it, THATS NO FUN if you ask me! Whats fun is seeing 2 cars that put out a close 725rwhp on pump go at it from 2 different manufacturers, built by 2 different shops, dyno'd on 2 different dynos! Well see what shop is telling the truth real quick! How long have YOU been street racing?? I remember the early 90's!

 

BThat's just stupid I race every Friday and Saturday night her in minnesota since I was 16 and if someone asks for a head start or length or whatever they get told to kick rocks you shouldn't be racing if your scared to lose or need lengths to make it "even" a bunch of pansies if you as me

 

It makes it more fun, if you cannot understand then i guess you are close minded. Makes for a hell of a night.

But then again, i am sure you step to every LS1 car and high powered ride with your almighty 350 with a T5 trans heads up right?

 

Hell yeah I have a ball sack and I'm not ashamed of my car... if I lose I lose that's just to bad my car is quicker than than most average joes everyday drivers and I'm content with that if your scared to have a heads up race maybe you should just invest more money into your car... cause with your theory of giving head starts and lengths to the slower car does that mean if one of your friends has an 800 hp street car and I pull up in a geo prism u will give me 35 lengths and a head start so I have a chance? That's just ****in stupid why build your car make it faster if u can get a head start

 

Screw that noise! I race heads up, anyone, If I win great, if not oh well. This spot and hits crap is BS. Whatever happened to run what you brung, back in the day we didn't play this sh*& and these kids need to learn the ropes. I run LS cars all the time and beat alot of them, sometimes not. But I don't ask for no chickensh$% lead, total BS. Like theman says, why build a car if you need a headstart??? Closedminded? No not at all. More like common sense.....

 

I seen him borrow some guys motorcycle get 10ft. and fall off! I was LMAO! What an idiot...

 

.

AMEN to that... nice car btw looks very similar to mine with the acception of the spoiler and rims...

 

I wrote him a letter, asking why he doesnt build a car a race it on the show. We'll see what he says. He has the money im sure, and it would be either semi interesting or comical at the least. why not?

 

Zone, we understand it, the way it works, how it can be used etc. but we just dont care for it. Thats all. Btw.. How good is your LS 3rd gen running?

 

My car runs it *** off, better than most on this site and many others that are not running a power adder, and i daily drive it.

Besides that, i have heads, cam and intake mustangs spraying 150, 175 ect, they cannot pull on me, so the fact is, to make things interesting, you have to give up land, give the move, ect, because otherwise it is a waste of time.

 

Cool.. How about you jump in the car, hit 290w and gimme a call when you hit Austin. There is plenty around here for you race and the best part is its tonight! I can for sure line you up with a 2jz 85 300ZX with twins, proven over 730rwhp, or a KB cobra thats got 650? My buddy Jimmy has an 88 rx7 turbo 2 with a 383 stroker, T56, callies crank, oliver rods, dart heads, or an 86 Monte SS with a built (fully) small block and nitrous, big n littles, 2 tone...there also a few fast vettes (lsx, blown or turbo!) its all friendly, no money usually. bring a fold out chair... there will be a lot more cars and a couple trucks that are serious when we get there. I would love to see a third gen whip a few stangs! A good race would be you vs one of the guys from austin f body who has a stroked LT1 95 formula...not sure if its got a power adder or not...

 

Thanks as usual, it's a work in progress, who's isn't? LOL....

 

Yea, there are fast cars right here in Houston, i dont need to drive to Austin and hope i done break something so i cannot get back home, LOL.

The cars around here are faster than most in the US, LMR here in Houston holds the LS record in the quarter i believe for a stock suspension F body, not to mention all the customer cars they build. Check out LS1tech.com and go to the Texas section, start going thru post, or just search LMR, they make cars go REALLY fast, then there is Duy with his Supra and all the other guys that make retarded power with turbos, hell RC is shooting for 1600 RWHP right now, the car is nearly done.

To tell you the truth, there are so many 1K RWHP cars here it is common, i will line them up with them, but then again, what fun is it if they dont give land and the move?

 

Yeah, I know what Houstons about, but it seemed you werent able to find any cars faster than what you posted. I know of several cars a HCI LSX would have a good run with and not have to spot any lengths either way..
Actually, San Antonio and Houston cars come up here all the time. If you broke, we have plenty of shops and other racers who would help ya out... You wouldnt be down long.

 

if you guys dont want to race hits or whatever (handicap start I call it) then next to your dial-in on your window when at the track, put an "N" by your dial time, this means you dont want to race handicap and they will calculate the difference so you can run heads up. I dont mind either way, I hate being the guy watching my opponent going down the track while i sit and anticipate a green light! But when I get the head start it is an adrenaline rush watching your opponent close in on you at the finish line!

 

With all due respect sir, were talking about something else... Dial ins need not apply!

 

Hell no, there is always someone faster for sure, i just dont find any NA cars that run worth a damn that arent chevys, the LS1s with cams and heads dont get me due to my extra cubes and possible lighter weight i guess.

If it werent for giving/getting the move and lengths, it wouldnt be fun, i know people bitch about it, but when there is money on the line, that is really proving you are faster by giving and taking it back and claiming your win.

 

good luck and stay safe compadre.