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Old Jun 14, 2001 | 10:39 PM
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L98 vs. LT1?

Hey guys my friend just recently bought a 1993 Z-28 and I'm looking to sell my 1997 V-6 and buy a 1992 5.7L Z-28. God I can't wait to get the Z. But back to my question. We were wondering who would win from a dead stop and also from a rolling start? We thought that I might take him out of the hole....but he would run me down. Is this about right? Well, thanks for you help.
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Old Jun 14, 2001 | 11:02 PM
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Old Jun 15, 2001 | 02:19 AM
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Yah that sounds about right. It depends on what trans and gears the 93 Z28 has, and what state of tune the two cars are in, as well as who can launch their car better.

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Old Jun 15, 2001 | 06:31 AM
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There is a "direct comparion" of these engines (in Corvette trim) at the following address:

http://www.69mustang.com/hp_torque.htm

Scroll down to the "At The Dragstrip" portion of the text. Actually, the entire article is great.
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Old Jun 15, 2001 | 02:31 PM
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My friends 1993 Z has 3.23 gears. The only thing that he has done to it is a K&N Cold Air Kit. When I get the 1992 Z what are the best mods to do to it? I want the car to not kill me on gas though. Can you all help? Thanks for the information.
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Old Jun 15, 2001 | 02:53 PM
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Hey KeithO thanks a lot for telling me about that site. It has really helped me figure out the relationship between horsepower and torque. Thanks a lot man.
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Old Jun 16, 2001 | 08:29 AM
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BadZ-28 -

I've seen this article on many web sites. It is excellent in describing the relationship between HP and torque. It's also very useful when you're talking to small-displacement, turbocharged car owners (try those calcs with, say, a Dodge Daytona). The numbers don't lie.

V8's are still the King in my mind.
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Old Jun 16, 2001 | 09:36 AM
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[This message has been edited by badZ-28 (edited June 16, 2001).]
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Old Jun 16, 2001 | 09:38 AM
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Your right about that man...I agree there is nothing that is better than a V-8.
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Old Jun 16, 2001 | 01:48 PM
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Maybe a V12 8.0...... say the one in the viper!!!!
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Old Jun 16, 2001 | 02:54 PM
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Imports, Vipers aren't even worth the money, any horsepower produced in a viper could be reproduced by a built, naturally aspirated v8.
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Old Jun 16, 2001 | 03:39 PM
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Yeah its possible, but most likely not very streetable...... and look what the engine is in... A viper looks bad *** . A LOT better than an RS camaro, or even an iroc like i have!
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Old Jun 17, 2001 | 01:47 PM
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There are streetable cars with V8's out there that run low 9's/high 8's. That's not even looking at the turbo Buick V6's.

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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 01:58 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by badZ-28:
My friends 1993 Z has 3.23 gears. The only thing that he has done to it is a K&N Cold Air Kit. When I get the 1992 Z what are the best mods to do to it? I want the car to not kill me on gas though. Can you all help? Thanks for the information. </font>
Start with the tech articles on this site, specifically the one "Suggested mods for Thirdgen L98's" or whatever its called, by Tom Keliher. Then do the free mods, like advancing the timing another 2-3 degrees, opening up the air intake, and bypassing the throttle body coolant. As long as your transmission is in good shape, you should beat the 93 Z28 in a street race.
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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 10:14 AM
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Hey thanks for the info. The '93 my friend has is nice, but it only feels like it's in the low 14's. Like maybe a 14.1-14.3 range. I say this because when he races our friend in his '95 Z he get's beat pretty bad. The '95 Z is running 13.77. Well, thanks again for the info.
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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 02:27 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by KeithO:
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V8's are still the King in my mind.
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I am not a import guy, but the fastest car at my school is a *****, beats the hell out of built small block chevelles, and even a built up big block.
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Old Jun 18, 2001 | 07:24 PM
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I'm not saying that ricers aren't fast because some of them are very fast. The only thing is cubic inches will ALWAYS win. If you deck out a 2.0L and a 5.7L with the same basic idea (meaning if you put a turbo on the 2.0L you do the same to the 5.7L). The smaller motor will never run with the larger engine. Unless there is a big weight difference. Such as a Chevelle vs. a Civic. But if the weight is relatively close the ***** doesn't have a chance. In my eyes there will never be anything better than the V-8.
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Old Jun 20, 2001 | 10:00 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by ImportsRsloths:
Maybe a V12 8.0...... say the one in the viper!!!!</font>
Just to let you know, Vipers got a V-10

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Old Jun 25, 2001 | 12:47 AM
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Well my car has 160K miles on stock engine. I continusly raced my friend with a 97 Z 6 speed (cold air,gutted MAF screens,flowmaster catback,aluminum driveshaft,and a power programer)
Before my headers I would be at his door at 120.
After headers I got him by 2 cars at 120.(and was still pulling good)
If you launch good you should jump him far enough off the line that he is unable to catch by a good race (80 IMO)
I would say:
1.all the free mods
(cut air box, ramair, grind down on the EGR walls on the plenum)
2.a good 3inch cat back,
3.and some headers. 4.
and of course a good tune up if needed. and I dont see why you could have a problem smoking him all around (down low and up high)

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Old Jun 25, 2001 | 12:27 PM
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Hey Chris Etemadi thanks for the info...I didn't realize that the L98 could be such a good preformer with little mods done. Nice car man. Hey is you car in the readers rides?
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