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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 11:10 PM
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To sell or not to sell?

I have just recently found a 1990 GTA fully loaded w/350 TPI. I missed out on one just before I bought the car I own now. I have put alot of money and time into my car. I know it still needs work, but it drives and handles well. I am still waiting for the seller to email with me with more info on the car. The car is burgundy w/t-tops. I don't know what the overall condition is,although the pic of it seems to show that it's in decent shape, and they are asking $2999.00. It's at a dealer. I would hope I could sell mine to pay for the GTA. If I could get around $5k for mine, I would be happy, then I could buy the car outright and still have some left over for some mods or any repairs that might be needed. I hate decisions like this. Atleast I know what needs to be done to my car, whereas I could be buying a can of worms if I get the GTA. I will wait to see what the dealer says, I guess.
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Old Nov 19, 2002 | 11:35 PM
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awww and I wanted to race you just once...
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 05:08 AM
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Do it Kevin... I'd come down and look at it with ya.. always good to have a second opinion with you
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 06:54 AM
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Is it high mileage? It looks to be in good shape, but that price seems awful cheap though. It's at least worth taking a look at.
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 07:30 AM
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I am still waiting to hear back from the dealership. I'll call them and see if I can get any info.
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 07:38 AM
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I say keep it. Your car has been a labour of love. YOu've poured your heart and soul into that car. You need to see it through and race that baby next year at least!

Anyone can buy horsepower, you've built your car up and will continue to do so.

Plus, black is way cooler than cayenne

Good luck with your decisiion, never hurts to look.
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 10:03 AM
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thats a tough one, being a 90 it has some refinements over yours, plus it has the 5.7 and its SD(wich may or may not be good) and it is a GTA(sweet). However the list of things that don't have to be replaced might be shorter than the list of things that have to be replaced.That price does seem quite low for a 90. I guess the only thing to do is check it out.Word to the wise take an ohm meter and check those MULTECS. It probably will have an intake gasket leak. It does look nice from the angle the photo was taken from
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 10:52 AM
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Look it over, assess the car, test drive, sleep on it than BUY! Kev that car has alot more ponies than yours even with your mods now. But again that car is selling for too cheap. They were going for $7000 in good condition and 200 000 plus kms. Like I said, go over the car thoroughly and sleep on it. Oh ya, one more thing.....don't trade unless he goes for a straight up. Your car is easily worth $5000.
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 11:22 AM
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I'll check it out since I'll be in that area later this week...
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 12:55 PM
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I wouldn't. Get something with lower miles and from an owner - not a dealer. GTA Lemons can be very costly - trust me from experience!
There was a guy on Autotrader.ca selling a gunmetal GTA in absolutely mint condition. He's from Aurora.
9000 or so..
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 01:03 PM
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I wouldn't. Get something with lower miles and from an owner - not a dealer. GTA Lemons can be very costly - trust me from experience!
There was a guy on Autotrader.ca selling a gunmetal GTA in absolutely mint condition. He's from Aurora.
9000 or so..
The only reason I am looking is because it's a 1990 GTA w/ 350.It also has t-tops. Very limited production year. Only 299 were made for Canada and 866 in the USA. The last one I saw was a 305. They were in the process of changing the interiors as well. Low production #'s doesn't really make the car anymore desireable, but as time goes, there will be less and less of them. Collector? Hmmm, maybe some day, who knows....
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 02:03 PM
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how many kms on your car there kevin?
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 09:37 PM
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Here's the low down on her...

Not a 350, 305 TPI.

VIN says so.

It's american, from illinois or something.

It has 100000 MILES ON IT. Despite that engine runs strong.

Interior is torn and ripped, unsalvagable, old leather.

Paint is old. Seen one too many sunny days. Lots of fading.

Carpet is filthy.

Drivers side window not raising well on its own.

Hood latch release is broken (although he's gonna fix it sometime soon.)

Doesn't burn oil, no exhaust smells.

Year old cat, intermediate pipe, flowmaster 80 and tips. 2 1/2 Inch

Rims are in "immaculate" condition. Damn nice polish job on them, not mirror, but enough to see a good reflection of the honeycomb.

Yokohama Tires, looks like summer only, lots of tread.

Multec injectors.

Passes emissions.

Does a wet burn out ok.

No odd sounds coming from engine, purrs nicely and exhaust sounds throaty like a flowmaster should.

Engine bay has been to the detail treatment, a/c looks like trigger's ac nice and polished (working is another matter).

Underside is clean, paint looks smooth, not winter driven. (panhard rod has "normal air corrosion", not salt) I looked at panhard rod, springs, axle... floor pans are smooth.

It creaks and groans though.
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 10:51 PM
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Hey Brad, there is 162,000Km on my car, so it would be the same as the 1990.
Slade, thanks for going to look at it. I would like to check it out for myself, however it sounds like this car would be alot of cosmetic work. I will have to see if I can zip up there on the weekend...I am disappointed that it is a 305. Did the guy verify that it was or could it have been swapped?

Engine specs for the 1990 GTA
LB9/A4_(v8)5.0L / 305 C.I. 9.3:1 HP=210@4400RPM TQ=285@3200

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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 11:05 PM
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There's no documentation to say that it was a 350... you'd have to look at the casting number on the back of the block to be sure.

I saw all the receipts for it since it got to Canada and nothing in there mentioning 350...
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 11:23 PM
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Hmmm... who said it was a 350 in the first place? If it is a 305, I'd pass Kevin. I've seen better for the same price
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by nblanchard
Hmmm... who said it was a 350 in the first place? If it is a 305, I'd pass Kevin. I've seen better for the same price
http://www.trader.ca/AutoPlace/Defau...m%3D%26mdnm%3D
It is all right here....
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Old Nov 20, 2002 | 11:36 PM
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hmmmm... I'm curious as to what they say whrn you tell them that its a 305 stock...
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 07:53 AM
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Slade, next time I go to buy a car, i'm taking you!
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 09:25 AM
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Can someone PM me the phone number

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complete running 305TPI,exhaust manifold to muffler -$1250
GTA rims "immaculate"- $500
700-R4 $500
87 IROC Shell(no engine,tranny,exhaust)T-tops,power everything,Grant steering wheel,Spohn SFC's,Polyuerethane suspension pieces,Wonder bar,TPI MAF ECM $1500
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 10:27 AM
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Isn't there a carfax serive you can use on the VIN in the states?

LOL Daz, I only used the term immaculate because the guy mentioned that to me and upon closer inspection yeah they were in amazing shape... like new.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 11:21 AM
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Isn't there a carfax serive you can use on the VIN in the states?

LOL Daz, I only used the term immaculate because the guy mentioned that to me and upon closer inspection yeah they were in amazing shape... like new.
phone number damn it!! before somebody buys my car!!..

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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 11:28 AM
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416-661-1666 ask for Kevin.

Better move your a$$ biatch. I'm leaving work early to go see it being it's only 5 minutes from my work!! Snooze you loose
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 12:15 PM
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I was thinking of trading the Suburban for it

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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 12:37 PM
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So, what you are saying is.... when you bought your Camaro, the salesman told you it was an LT1, and you believed him? hehe

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Slade, next time I go to buy a car, i'm taking you!
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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Originally posted by nblanchard
So, what you are saying is.... when you bought your Camaro, the salesman told you it was an LT1, and you believed him? hehe
nOt bAd.....I'Ll giVe yOu tHaT oNe ... :hail:

bUt oNlY thE fiRsT oNE iS fReE
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 01:58 PM
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Originally posted by KWF
I say keep it. Your car has been a labour of love. YOu've poured your heart and soul into that car. You need to see it through and race that baby next year at least!

Anyone can buy horsepower, you've built your car up and will continue to do so.

Plus, black is way cooler than cayenne


Good luck with your decisiion, never hurts to look.
I disagree..Anyone can buy parts..not horsepower..Its not the same line as "anyone can buy anew car"..

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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 02:47 PM
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Originally posted by Daz
I disagree..Anyone can buy parts..not horsepower..Its not the same line as "anyone can buy anew car"..

Daz
Fair enough... but there's always a bigger fish in the sea right?

If I had the money, i'd have bought a Vette c5... i'd be a heck of a lot faster than i am now(thus the buying HP remark), but if you think about it, there'd still be people out there faster, albeit fewer so am I really getting anywhere besides down the track faster?

My statement was an emotional arguement. What would be more satisfying... Buy a car faster than yours and jump a second in the 1/4 mile instantly, or take that car YOU've (in Kevin's case) sweated blood on over the years and make it go 1 second faster by tinkering and tuning?

For me, the latter would be far more satisfying. That's my argument and i'm sticking to it

Buying parts to produce HP is similar to buying a faster car, but I draw a distinction, particularly for those that do their own work and tuning. I consider building a car more noble than buying.... and as soon as I know how to build a car, i'll be set
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 03:17 PM
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I also agree that the car you ahve now is your car. Meaning you busted you butt to get it in the condition it is in now. I personally think there are better GTA's around.

But's its your blood (and money).

Please keep us posted!!
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 06:15 PM
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Oh, KWF, since you're following this thread... pick up High Performance Pontiac magazine (february edition) there is a 12 second V6 Bird in there... it is worth checking out man!!
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 08:56 PM
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Originally posted by nblanchard
Oh, KWF, since you're following this thread... pick up High Performance Pontiac magazine (february edition) there is a 12 second V6 Bird in there... it is worth checking out man!!
Yeah, that's James Dowles... i talk to him all the time online

Crazy man.... he's going direct port 150hp shot next year, mid 11's in his future on that 97 v6 bird.

I didn't know they sold that mag in canada... will have to pick it up.

thanks
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 10:47 PM
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Well I am pretty certain that I will keep my car, for now. If a deal was to fall into my lap, such as a Canadian 1990 GTA w/ 350 TPI, I will not hesitate.As for the GTA that is for sale now, if one of you guys pick it up, I hope all is well with it. I just can't warrant replacing leather interiors and a paint job, as well as any other little thing that comes up. My car needs a rear axle( see the classifieds) and I have some rust coming through in a couple of spots, other than that, it is a pretty solid car.
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Old Nov 21, 2002 | 10:59 PM
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Kevin...I say dont do it man......dont sell your car! Its real easy to throw in the towel and say you are going to flip it and get something a little "better", hey man I almost did it with mine before I got it painted!

Not that I am saying mine is any show quality paint job, but looking at what it was vs. what it is now only helps to reaffirm that in due time you will have it where you want it!

Stick with it man and it will 1000x better than that GTA, and you will apreciate it a million times more!

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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 01:03 AM
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Hey Daz, what kind of condition are your GTA rims in? 16 inchers or what? hmmmmmmmm
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 10:00 AM
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Hey Daz, what kind of condition are your GTA rims in? 16 inchers or what? hmmmmmmmm
check the pic at the start of the thread

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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 01:17 PM
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so i guess you bought it ehh...gold? i want black ones,,,sorry.
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 01:28 PM
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Hey dood, there's a new invention out, its called paint... lol
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Old Nov 22, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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I had black, but sold for $700.





That was 2 years ago.

Sorry dude
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Old Nov 23, 2002 | 03:05 PM
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hey Blanchard, ever work 70 hours aweek. on night shift as well? not much time to sleep for s h i t sakes. so theresd no time for that. you want 500$ for them, with out tires. i might just go buy zr1 rims for235$ a piece instead. 500$ for what, 13 year old rims. cha right.
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Old Nov 25, 2002 | 09:02 AM
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Those GTA rims, regradless of age, have and always will be in high demand by f-body owners. $500 for mint condition gold GTA rims are a steal! Daz or anyone else will have no problem selling them. I consider them an investment since they'll never loose there value. I hear you on the hours, but if you want the GTA's, buy them in any colour and just wait for the right time to get them painted. I myself push over the 70hours mark between the day job, part-time job and school.
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