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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:17 AM
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WOSCA AutoX this weekend(Oct 26th)

Anyone interested in joining me this weekend? $25, day starts at 10am and usually ends around 5-6(you get 5 timed runs for the day plus fun laps afterwards). At least 35 cars and upwards of 50 sometimes. You dont really need anything to come out. Only mandatory thing that isn't already bolted onto our cars is a helmet which they carry extra of or you can borrow off me.

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Here's a little video of the actual event to give you an idea of how much fun it can be.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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I was going to go to that one but I'm doing one at Mosport this weekend instead. Autox is a blast though, I did one a couple of weeks ago. Suspension work helped a lot.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:40 AM
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Mosport eh... with what club or what's the event? I'll be looking for some road course time next year. We'll have to hook up!
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:49 AM
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Oshawa Motorsports Club - omsc.ca

This is a lap day / hill climb. It's a year end sort of deal - not listed on their site.

They have solo 1 and 2 events throughout the year mostly at Mosport and Shannonville I think. I'm not a member but it looks like a good club - been around for a long time and has CASC affiliation.
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Old Oct 22, 2003 | 10:04 AM
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I'll check em out,
Thx!
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 10:12 AM
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Here's some pics from the past weekend autox.













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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 09:00 PM
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The car looks good - seems to have a nice stance in the corners.

So how did it go.

Mosport was good - there was no waiting to get on the track and you could stay out as long as you wanted - I found that the motor got too hot after about 10-15 laps. The car still smells like burn't brakes.

Started to dry out in the afternoon and could really hammer it then - driving in the rain was a laugh though.

I think the best thing to when it's raining is to go to the track anyway because it's all a blast and you never if it's going to dry out or not.
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Old Oct 27, 2003 | 10:03 PM
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Lookin good Justin! How did the car handle... I know it's hard to tell in the rain... but compared to the other guys...
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 10:04 AM
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The car looks good - seems to have a nice stance in the corners.

So how did it go.
Thx george, handles great but will need some tuning. Has a bit of push due to the light rear spring rate.
The day went great. WOSCA guys are good and ran everything super smoothly. Fastest cars out there were the imprezas and a CRX. These cars are pretty much perfect for autox and are always gonna be at the top(Especially on a wet track day such as this one).

Mosport was good - there was no waiting to get on the track and you could stay out as long as you wanted - I found that the motor got too hot after about 10-15 laps. The car still smells like burn't brakes.

Started to dry out in the afternoon and could really hammer it then - driving in the rain was a laugh though.
SOunds like a fun day. Got any pics of it? I'll have to come out with ya sometime next summer on a lapping day. Thinking about trying Mosport and shannonville partway throught the summer.

I assume you're using a stock rad with the overheating problem?

I think the best thing to when it's raining is to go to the track anyway because it's all a blast and you never if it's going to dry out or not.
I totally agree. It's an especially good idea to go out on a rainy day if its your first time out such as it was for me. Teaches you a little more car control and you'll be going around at lower speeds which is safer also. Well safter at an autox event at least. I wouldn't say the same for a road course. But anyway.

Lookin good Justin! How did the car handle... I know it's hard to tell in the rain... but compared to the other guys...
Thx Jay. Compared to the other guys nobody could figure out how I was getting through the slalom section of the course so fast. Everyone was pretty amazed. There was one main sweeping right turn also which I got around basically as fast as anyone else... only place that the car was slower or had a tough time in was 2 160* turns both to the left. Since they had the course setup for 2 laps you'd hit these turns 2 times each. I'm pretty confident in saying that's where I lost all my time to the faster cars. I wouldn't hesitate to say I was losing close to a half second here. Me, nor the 97 SS or the mustangs were getting through these two areas quickly. I was attempting to try and throw the rear end of the car around under braking to try and rally around the corner but it was too bumpy in the one turn and just didn't have enough speed in the second. But that's racing. Can't setup for eveything.

Anyway, here's a couple videos of my buddy Mike(guy you met with me Jay) driving around two parts of the course. He was supposed to be taking shots of me but kept screwing it up! They're just 15 second shots as it was just a Digi cam. In the first video you'll see at the end of the straight(last turn) the first corner that gave us probs. Then in the second video you'll see the slalom and the final turn which was the other one causing other issues.

Start of course

Slalom section

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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 05:47 PM
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Looks like a pretty tight course... I think it was better when they did it at delaware. But either way, you can't really get the idea driving in the rain... you gotta make it out when it's dry.

I know what your saying about the pushing.... when I had my car that low it pushed like crazy...

cool vids!
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Old Oct 28, 2003 | 06:40 PM
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Lol.. re the video - sort of brings it all back.

Your car sounds nice - do you have headers or is it just the catback.

I don't have any pictures. Yeah - stock rad = o/heating.

My car pushes badly in the rain but I saw from your ackerman post that maybe you're thinking it's something else.
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:07 AM
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Looks like a pretty tight course... I think it was better when they did it at delaware. But either way, you can't really get the idea driving in the rain... you gotta make it out when it's dry.

I know what your saying about the pushing.... when I had my car that low it pushed like crazy...

cool vids!
I wouldn't say the course was too tight.... it is autox. But yea everything comes up pretty quick and with my 2.73 gears I was able to keep it in first around the entire course no problem. Don't think I went over 4700rpm.

I've been talking with some guys over in the suspension forum in the "Ackerman Problem?" thread about the push and steering etc... Got some ideas about how to tune that which make sense to me. Really I havn't done any tuning to my car other than some alignment tweaking since I put all these parts on. I'm in no way complaining about the handling, but you can tell(even in the rain) that it's capable of much more.

Was it you telling me they're gonna bring the autox back to Delaware next year??? Maybe it was one of the WOSCA guys. Hmm.. anyway hopefully they will. Then you and I can hopefully put some import guys in their proper place. I'm not even the slightest bit worried about mustang guys ;p

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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 08:16 AM
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Lol.. re the video - sort of brings it all back.

Your car sounds nice - do you have headers or is it just the catback.

I don't have any pictures. Yeah - stock rad = o/heating.

My car pushes badly in the rain but I saw from your ackerman post that maybe you're thinking it's something else.
It's just the catback on the car with no cat. That day is the first time I've actually heard my car from the outside when it's moving. Gotta agree I'm glad I went this way instead of flows. After one of my runs a guy came over when I had my hood up to check a couple things and asked what I had in there. WHen I told him it's just a 305 he almost flipped his lid. Does that count as show and no go?

As for your rad... Do you have A/C? or have you taken it out but left the condenser in?
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Old Oct 29, 2003 | 09:29 AM
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I've never heard mine from outside either. Still have all the AC stuff in there - probably remove it when I get another motor - I will have to get a better rad then anyway.

It's generally been running hotter since I installed the shroud and fan from an 84 Camaro back in August - shroud for the TA was deeper and the the fan was slightly different.
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 07:16 PM
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Track

Here's a picture of the driver development track used for lap days and autocross at Mosport and so on. As you can see it's quite long. It's also got elevation changes - from about the mid point of the back straight it's downhill - pretty good track actually.

I thought I'd post this because it's going to be a long winter.. lol.
Attached Thumbnails WOSCA AutoX this weekend(Oct 26th)-devtrack.jpg  
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Old Oct 30, 2003 | 09:15 PM
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Damn that looks like too much fun. I've actually driven the GP Mosport track in a 67 Lotus GP car, a 2002 Winston Cup car and I think even a 97 GSXR 750... of course this was all on my computer but it's an awesome facility. For sure I'm comin out with ya some time next summer george.
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