Is it worth it to get this air box for $220~ with the K&N's?? Or is it more productive to just get the K&N's that fit the stock intake and cut open the air box and make a custom ram air setup? which yields more gains? does anyone have any actual numbers for either of these?

 

By the way this is the box im referring to.

 

anyone?

 

I would think that the box you are looking at would feed more air to the intake. I want to get the same one!!

 

If this is for a Firebird, then yes, the ram air box will be a big improvement in its breathing. The stock "straw" that the Firebirds have to breath through is too restrictive, even for a stock engine.

 

if that sucker lines up sweet with those inlets ..... that might be better ( less curves for the air to come into the plenum )

 

you dont pay much attention to detail do you?

look at my name and look at my sig...do you think i have a firebird?

anyway this is the stock intake

btw dont mind the messy *** engine bay :P

 

The under side of your hood is a little diff than mine but I think that box might work better than my bubba ramn air set up.

Hope you don't mind me posting a pic of the under side of your hood:

 

Take a pill. Not EVERYONE has just the car in a sig (which I don't bother to read anyway) and a name is a name

 

If those are the only holes supplying the air ....then I would just make the home made cold air set up like this

.......... total cost $ 6.40 .....I'd link it....but I am haveing problems loading it for somereason ......but its on my site

 

Prolly use a dremmel or sawsall to remove more material.

 

The air goes from here

To here

To here


OR...I could do the other ram air setup like this one

 

It just looks like them holes don't flow that much



but like mentioned before ....you could hack that hood up to flow more ..........


I'd just do the bottom one .....but that is just MY preference ...... I am not sure which is actually better .


But I sure as hell ain't paying them guys that kind of cash for that cold air setup on thew bottom either ...... you would think it was made of gold or something .......mine on my site does the same ffrigging thing , and it cost only 6. 40 .....


peace out

 

First off the one made for the hood will work better, theres less bend, the air just heads straight on in. Dan's right about the cost of the second one, what a rip off and the gains in city driving are minamal.
I cut my boxes and did the costom bottom ones, seat of the pants i couldnt tell a diference and got a wooping tenth in the 1/4 and I couldnt even tell if i just got lucky on some of them runs or not as the MPH was only margialy (1-2)higher. But I had problems with over heating as the costom boxes blocked off some of the air my rad needed to keep cool. So I tore them out and bam no more overheating.

We put the Ram Air on our 96 and even with the big bend to bring the air around from the center of the hood u can still feel a seat of the pants diference. Track times have yet to be made.

I would go with the one for the hood, not only will it work better but come on, it looks better. U can then pop your hood at a show and say hey look true Ram Air.

 

Thnx for the input...

 

why thank you captain obvious

 

if you could cut the holes in the hood a little bigger, then I would assume that box would make a nice difference in power... the Ram Air LS1s in the fourth gens have 15 more horsepower... the only difference in the ram air and non ram air is the pre-throttle body intake, correct? just my .02

 

Yea im leaning towards that intake atm...its a little more pricey but im not about to take any short cuts...

 

might be worth it to look into wether or not you may be able to modify the box from an LS1 to fit that hood... the intake they sell, looks to me like it is the LS1 box, just with no cover on it???

 

good idea, anyone know anything about this?? is it possible?

 

ok, just looked at a picture of one I have on my wall lol, and it looks like the top half attaches to the throttle body and the bottum half is where the air comes in from the hood... that still isnt to say that the entire box might not fit

and another thing... the box that they sell with the ram air hood doesnt really look like a true ram air, more just a 'cowl' induction. unless the entire box is sealed and has no way of getting air, except through the hood, then it isn't really a true ram air. thats how the LS1 box it, completely sealed, except for the nostrils in the hood

 

Well acording to this there is no such thing as TRUE ram air on a car anyways, it all works like a CAI. Now is this true? Heck I dont know. I know I can feel a diference on our 96, being CAI or not.

http://www.kwfbody.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=438

 

yea its true.

there is no such thing as ram air... you cannot generate a higher static pressure with a scoop any any speeds your car is capable of.



but noones going to admit that.....

 

lol, I guess I should of taken Physic's in School eh :P