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Old May 21, 2005 | 12:02 AM
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Oil pressure dropping when braking

I've noticed that my oil pressure drops sometimes to 0 during hard braking. I don't know if my gauge is being stupid, or I really don't know. Cuz I've never seen that happend even with my stock motor. I do have a stock oil pan with no windage tray, but I wouldn't think I would drop to 0 psi when I brake hard, even medium braking does it. Engine don't make any noise or act different, just my gauge reads the pressure drop. Any ideas would be appreciated.


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Old May 21, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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Pickup fell off the oil pump.

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Old May 21, 2005 | 08:22 AM
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I'm NOT trying to ba a smart a$$, but haave U checked the oil level?

How much pressure does it normally have at idle + at speed after oil is warmed up?

My wife's car (87 RS--V-6)--did that until I replaces the oil pressure sending unit--might want to try replacing that.
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Old May 21, 2005 | 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by RBob
Pickup fell off the oil pump.

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i'd have to agree. i would have assumed that he has checked the oil level. but then again.....
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Old May 21, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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oil pressure sensor right behind one of valve covers and the distributer cap.
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Old May 21, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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No the oil level is just fine and dandy. I changed it today. And the pick up should be fine. I have about 30-35 psi at idle, and I run somewheres around 50-55 at cruse speed. Just when i brake it goes way down. I thought about the pick up tube also. And my sensor is right above the oil filter on the side of the block.


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Old May 21, 2005 | 09:28 PM
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Does it do the same thing WOT?
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Old May 22, 2005 | 01:08 AM
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Oil pressure is good all the time, but when I come to a stop it drops down. Like I said oil level is fine, no clattering, nothing. Just the gauge reads low psi when I come to a stop. Drops way fast when braking hard.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 02:08 AM
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my car did the same thing. it was fine until i hit the brakes. the pressure was the same as yours too when not braking. it was just that sensor.
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Old May 22, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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Mine is doing the same thing and wont really hit over 35 either. I did just go from 5W-30 to 10W-30. So I might switch back.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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yeah I was thinking, that it shouldn't be starving from oil. You would think it would make noise. I know I'm full on oil. And my sensor is new, but that doesn't mean its any good. I'll prolly try changing it and see what happens. I highly doubt my pickup tube fell out. You would think there would be no pressure at all.
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Old May 23, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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yeah I was thinking, that it shouldn't be starving from oil. You would think it would make noise. I know I'm full on oil. And my sensor is new, but that doesn't mean its any good. I'll prolly try changing it and see what happens. I highly doubt my pickup tube fell out. You would think there would be no pressure at all.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 11:24 AM
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Mine was doing the same exact thing. It's been doing it for over a year. At first I thought it only did it when it was less than 1/2 quart below full, but the last quart I added brought it up to full and it definately was still doing it. I also recently changed the oil pressure sender, no difference.

I pulled the engine this past weekend in prep for the 350 shortblock project. When I pulled the pan, much to my dismay I saw the pickup had divorced itself from the pump. I found I could not get it to stay by simply trying to drive it into the pump. This was a ZZ4 take-off pan, pump, & stud-mounted baffle from SDPC back in '01. Basically brand new parts (why the pump and pickup were separated I have no idea).

So, now my question: Is hardening Permatex #1 adequate for a lasting marriage? It'll have plenty of time to set up before being installed. Or, should I just bite the bullet and borrow the co-worker's flux core wire welder and weld the two together? I don't have access to brazing equipment (although I could probably get out the carbon arc equipment for my old Lincoln stick welder and give that a try).
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 11:32 AM
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to be on the safe side just tack it. don't start running beads, the heat might distort the pump body.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 11:44 AM
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2 small spot welds are plenty good for holding the pickup to the pump.

You would think that with as much force as it takes to drive a pickup home into the pump that it would never come out again. But they do, and with frightening regularity. I never assemble my engines until I tack weld the pickup to the pump, or use a pickup that bolts to one of the oil pump corner bolts.
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Old Jun 1, 2005 | 01:05 PM
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To my eternal shame, this one did not drive in hard. I should have known it wasn't going to stay in.
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