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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 02:14 PM
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I am going to buy the 24# Ford injectors to replace my crap Accels. Does anyone have the part number so I am sure to pick the correct ones. Also, any tips? I heard getting the stock GM O-rings and swapping the Ford rings helps with the fit.
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 02:37 PM
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I copied this from the FIVE-0 web site.

Bosch injectors
0280150947
8/Set $336
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Old Jan 9, 2006 | 02:50 PM
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I saw this part number FMS-M-9593-A302 on Summit's site. Are these the injectors that people are using now? I remember everyone using SVO 24# but I think these are a newer model. Anyone?
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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I would recommend getting the GM o-rings.

They are slightly thicker than the Fords, if u have them side by side you can easily see the difference.

I have used the Ford o-rings without issue, but some people here have had problems and as a matter of course I use the GM ones when available.

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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 12:15 PM
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About the "O" rings, I went to the local hardware store and bought 3 dozen "O"-rings of the same size for $1.30. Installed them and have had no issues. It beats paying alot of money for the dealer "O" rings.
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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that works fine too, you just need to make sure they are compatible with fuel.

some rubber is and some isnt, as are certain 0-rings.

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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Ya, I was planning on getting the GM O-rings from previous boards. The problem now is, I see a new model of Ford injectors. They don't call them "SVO" any more (as far as I see on Jegs and Summits web site). Has any one used these new injectors? Are the sizes the same etc.?
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Old Jan 10, 2006 | 06:00 PM
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I just got some Ford Racing 30 # injectors yesterday they work grate so far.
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 08:28 AM
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From where? Part number?
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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 09:30 AM
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lol

U want the old 5.0 style, think Fox body.

they arent "SVO" anymore, think Ford Racing or Ford Motorsports now.

They are liste din Summit magazine

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Old Jan 11, 2006 | 10:18 AM
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Hey Jeremy - Found this on Summit page... Guess they are called "EV1" now.

FMS-M-9593-A302 Ford Racing High Flow Fuel Injectors
Fuel Injectors, EV1, 24 lbs./ hr., 11-18 Ohms Impedance, 12 V Saturated Circuit Driver, Ford, Set of 8
Today $194.88
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 09:39 AM
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whats the biggest recommended for a stock motor? I heard if you go to big it doesnt run all that great. Whats the stock 22#? have an 87 TA TPI
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 09:57 AM
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Everybody ran the "SVO" Ford injectors with stock fuel rail and stock or aftermarket intake manifold. I assume they were the same size as the Stock GM injectors. From what I have heard here, everybody loves them and the Ford's have been consistent in good quality and few faluires. I am replacing Accel's which are crap, but that is another story... My concern here is I am finally ready to buy for Spring install and I just saw that Ford has changed the model to "EV1" which I was hoping to hear someone on the board has used with success. Not having a lot of injector knowledge, I am also hoping they have not changed in spec, which common sense says they should not have but stranger things have happened in the aftermarket world.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 01:48 PM
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Hey tenpin842

If your keeping your engine mostly stock, I would suggest not changing the #'s. You can get away with playing with Fuel pressure to work with bigger injectors and have some success but it is not really the right way to do it. You would need to change the injector settings in the chip. Which will cost you a lot of money for a custom chip unless you know someone that burns chips. If your looking for bolt on performance, do something more simple. Your getting into the realm of computer suff with injectors which is a real pain. I do burn my own chips so 24# injectors are not an issue.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 02:25 PM
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hey thanks. I heard getting an adjustable fuel pressure reg. and turn it up to 50psi is a good idea? Is it? I already have Headers and Exhaust, I have an air foil, I bought the air induction systen from SLP. (because the stock coffee can sux!!), I bought a Hypertech chip, I spent $180.00 on that. My little 305 runs just great with a little over 100,000 miles. My next thing is the SLP runners, and porting the center piece, and intake. Throttle body can wait I hear.
But I wasnt sure about the injectors....I see them all the time on Ebay. So I will just wait for those.
Thanks for the info!!
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 02:53 PM
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Yes, a AFPR is great bang for the buck. I think it's good for around 8-10 horse. You can also play around with the pressure a little bit at the track to see what the car likes best. With your set up, diffinetly stay away from injectors. You don't need to mess around with that until you make major internal motor changes like heads, cams, and big air intakes. Get all the basic stuff and then build a 350 someday that you can use that stuff with after that 305 dies. Sounds like you did most of the common bolt ons. I don't think you should buy a cam or heads for that motor. If you feel like spending money someday, you can get a ZZ4 350 shortblock for 2G's.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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SVO does not exist anymore, all those parts are now called Ford Motorsports, or FMS. The SVO group at Ford has been renamed SVT several years ago.

Jack: buy the 24#/hr FMS injectors from Summit Racing. I have been running these injectors for sevseral years, no problems. The FMS injectors are building up a reputation to best the best and most reliable injectors that you can buy, and they are not as expensive as most!!!
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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Hey, I actually just bought a set of 24# injectors for my Z. Attached is the link, hopefully that helps you. It was only $330.50 for the set of 8 Bosch p/n 0280150947. I spoke w/Bruce.
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 07:38 PM
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oops

forgot the link.........

http://www.fiveomotorsport.com/Injector_Sets.asp
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Old Jan 12, 2006 | 08:59 PM
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The FMS injectors are $210 or $220 @ Summit Racing.
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Old Jan 13, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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Doc - Thanks for specifically answering my question. I know you work at Ford so I know you know what you are talking about.
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Old Nov 18, 2006 | 11:11 PM
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Is the 24# rating for the SVO injectors at 43.5 psi? I read that the LS1 injectors were 28# at 58 psi, which was supposedly the fuel pressure for stock LS1's. They said they flow 24# at 43.5 psi. If that's the case; does it mean I can get 28# from my SVO injectors by increasing the fuel pressure to 58psi? I am asking beacuse I've read that stock TPI injectors will not work properly when fuel pressure increases over 50psi. Is that the case for SVO injectors too?
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 03:10 AM
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You'll get 27.7#s/hr@58psi from a 24#/hr injector. The injector will run hotter because it takes more current to open the valve against the higher pressure. The injector coil begins to fail when it gets too hot. This can cause a lean condition. Even though a race may take just a few seconds WOT is the worst time for an injector(s) to go lean. Invest in the best for the HP you're making.
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 06:30 AM
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I picked up a set of 8 on ebay from a dealer for less than $200. The label on the box says Ford Racing Performance Parts M-9593-A302 24# Injector Kit (8).
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Old Nov 19, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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Originally Posted by doc
SVO does not exist anymore, all those parts are now called Ford Motorsports, or FMS.
Just an FYI...

Several years ago the original "group" that sold the high performance parts via catalog and certain "FMS" dealers was:

Ford Motorsport SVO, most just called them just Ford Motorsport, or FMS...

It's been 3 years or more since it was renamed it's current name:

Ford Racing Performance Parts, or FRPP

http://www.fordracingparts.com/parts/products.asp

FWIW, you are correct about SVO , being replaced by SVT...That's also been quite some time ago...

Most people (including myself) still call them FMS or Ford Motorsport simply because it's easier to say...but FRPP, or Ford Racing Performance Parts is what it is named.

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