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Old Mar 3, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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Cold Start Deletion Question

I have '86 TPI setup with harness to install on my Monte. I wanted to delete the cold start injection; so I bought a set of '89+ runner and fuel rail to keep from having to block any of the CSI stuff off. Do I need to use a '89+ throttle body now so that the engine gets idle air?

I did some searching, but couldnt come up with a direct answer to this question.

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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 06:09 AM
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Duts87ss,
i don't think you will need the later throttle body as long as you keep the '86 plenum but i am not sure. hopefully someone can give you a more definitive answer.
would you be willing to sell the cold start injector and the extra set of fuel rails you have? LMK if so and how much.
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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 06:49 AM
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If you don't have a leaking injector, all you really have to do is unhook the electrical connectors from the CSI, and change PROMS. I did that for a few months untill I ripped the TPI apart to rebuild it. Then I did the SLP runners and did a home brew fuel rail block off.

You do not need to change the throttle body.
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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 07:45 AM
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I'm not using the CSI on my setup with the 86 TPI setup and eliminated the CSI in the prom
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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 08:05 AM
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Engine: HSR 383 AFR180/268XFI EBL
Transmission: 200-4R, Edge 2800 L/U
Axle/Gears: 7.5/3.73/PowerTrax No-Slip
Originally posted by Kwiksilverz28
If you don't have a leaking injector, all you really have to do is unhook the electrical connectors from the CSI, and change PROMS. I did that for a few months untill I ripped the TPI apart to rebuild it. Then I did the SLP runners and did a home brew fuel rail block off.

You do not need to change the throttle body.
Did you update to late model (89-92) runners from SLP?
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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 10:13 AM
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I had the hole for the CSI welded shut for both my SLP & stock runners
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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 12:32 PM
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Originally posted by IROCZ4BD3
I had the hole for the CSI welded shut for both my SLP & stock runners
The later model runners didnt have an air tube for the driver side; so I'm wondering if I'll have any idle air when using the early TB and late runners.
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Old Mar 4, 2006 | 10:03 PM
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I'm thinking I may just have the '86 TB I have machined to match a '89+ TB. I'll take a '89+ TB gasket and machine out the area where the gasket is open.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 07:15 PM
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I have a 88 Throttle body, 88 plenum, 88 fuel rails, newer type SLP runners.
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 09:40 PM
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Originally posted by Kwiksilverz28
I have a 88 Throttle body, 88 plenum, 88 fuel rails, newer type SLP runners.
No idle problems?
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Old Mar 5, 2006 | 11:27 PM
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I have '88 TPI intake, blocked CSI port, plugged fuel rail, I'm using a '89 Corvette ARAP bin.
I also bored out the '88 TB with an air foil installed to 52mm, and deleted the TB coolant system.
No idle problems. The idle is higher than stock, but that's because of the cam & stroke.
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Old Mar 6, 2006 | 08:01 AM
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Transmission: 200-4R, Edge 2800 L/U
Axle/Gears: 7.5/3.73/PowerTrax No-Slip
Originally posted by rgarcia63
I have '88 TPI intake, blocked CSI port, plugged fuel rail, I'm using a '89 Corvette ARAP bin.
I also bored out the '88 TB with an air foil installed to 52mm, and deleted the TB coolant system.
No idle problems. The idle is higher than stock, but that's because of the cam & stroke.
Are you using '89+ runners?
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Old Mar 10, 2006 | 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by Duts87ss
No idle problems?
Not at all. Knock on wood, runs perfect. Just need to get the suspension all straightened out, and will be perfect.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 12:11 AM
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Axle/Gears: 7.5/3.73/PowerTrax No-Slip
Originally posted by Kwiksilverz28
Not at all. Knock on wood, runs perfect. Just need to get the suspension all straightened out, and will be perfect.
Thanks, that'll keep me from having to get the TB machined.
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Old Mar 11, 2006 | 01:38 AM
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Originally posted by Duts87ss
Are you using '89+ runners?
The only induction part that's not '88 is the Scroggins Dickey High-Flow TPI Vortec lower intake base-plate.
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