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Old May 29, 2001 | 08:16 PM
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SDPC Vortec TPI Update

We received the 2nd prototype last week and it is on the dyno right now. We should have power specs for different combinations by the end of the week. Once the 2nd prototype is approved it will go into production and we should have them by the first part of July.

Yup I to have been waiting since Oct.00

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Old May 29, 2001 | 08:49 PM
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Any word on pricing?



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Old May 30, 2001 | 06:12 PM
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Man, I just got an e-mail today, I went straight to edelbrock. They said it was only exclusive to SD, and to expect it by, get this, the end of summer. That's when it was supposed to be released...1 YEAR AGO! DAMN, I wish somebody would put their *** in gear and put their **** in the same sock! Hey guy's! I'M WAITING!

They're still 'testing it'. What takes so long? First casting problems, then testing, now what? Purple monkeys mess up the conveyor?

I think someone needs to get into high gear. this is flat-out aggrivating
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Old May 31, 2001 | 08:48 AM
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No word or price yet guess I'll have to keep saving...
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Old Jun 1, 2001 | 10:05 PM
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Car Craft in a recent issue did the Zero to Hero with a 88 350 Formula and I bet they get the manifold before we see it so they can hype the heck outta it...
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Old Jun 2, 2001 | 07:06 AM
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i spoke to a guy named jeff from scoggin dickey, he told me that they got a tpi motor on the dyno right now with the prototype base zz4 cam and vortek heads (new springs) and it pulled 335hp 405ftlbs.tork!!! with stock tpi injectors and runners, plennum and afpr.he also said that it was goin in a88 firebird to test the egr tube kit that is supposed to come with the new base coz vortek heads dont have the passages.he also said that all the L98 stuff will bolt right up. the egr kit and base he claims will go for about 400to 450$ and he claims in about 1 month hmm(man.. i am just the messenger)after a good long conversation about heads i odered my S/R torkers with .15 head gaskets from him. the torkers flow better than vortek and it was only 722$(with felpro gasket) delivered to my door..it old him to hurry as if it will make a diffrence...


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Old Jun 2, 2001 | 02:33 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by eddie89TA:
the egr kit and base he claims will go for about 400to 450$ and he claims in about 1 month hmm</font>
Soooooo , that would mean you could about get the heads cheaper than the intake ...lol!! Geezus , even LS1 guys are getting LS6 manifolds cheaper than that .

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Old Jun 2, 2001 | 10:36 PM
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I think there ought to be a 'limited time' discount for these intakes since we had to wait so long. An introductory price may just be what SD needs to do to earn back those who turned away, and make those who are waiting a little less angry(LIKE ME!!!). I think $300 is a good deal for the first 1000 orders, don't you think?

S-D, Edelbrock, ARE YOU LISTENING???

I know that there have been a couple customers who have come in and asked for the Vortec TPI intake, who have been told it doesn't exist and it hasn't been released. I never saw these folks again. What sense does it make to spend x$$$ on developing/producing an intake if nobody buys it since you pissed them off by making them wait a year(like us with longblocks waiting to go in the car! ) Hey, SD, cut us a break! $400+? I could sell my Vortecs and get some 'Vette heads for that, and the intake availability is much higher!!!

I'm starting to wonder...
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Old Jun 3, 2001 | 08:41 PM
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Yea I called them too. So I started questioning the guy. First he tells me that 350's came with 19lb injectors and then he tells he has no idea when it will be for sale. Oh and that they found a slight problem that would need to be addressed, so I bet probably august, maybe september you will be able to buy that intake. I also asked him if he knew anybody that was looking for a set of vortec heads cause I'm selling mine. Anybody have a set of heads for sale? later ken

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Old Jun 4, 2001 | 11:23 AM
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I personally don't care what little problem they found. Gimme one, I'll fix it when I get it, dammit! I'm tired of waiting! I spent all weekend porting my Vortecs and they're smooth as a baby's a$$. No large metal removal, just smoothing/blending. I wanna see how they work!
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Old Jun 4, 2001 | 11:51 AM
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My question regarding the vortec intake is whether the design is based on the stock intake or on Edlebrock's Bigmouth intake base. I seriously hope it is the latter. If it's based on the stock intake, then there's going to be a lot of potential in the vortec heads that the intake will not allow you to realize, and that will be very disappointing. Anybody know for sure what they're using as a foundation for the Vortec intake, or was it built from the ground up?
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Old Jun 4, 2001 | 12:21 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 90 Z28SS:
Soooooo , that would mean you could about get the heads cheaper than the intake ...lol!! Geezus , even LS1 guys are getting LS6 manifolds cheaper than that .

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Not exactly. After all is said and done. It gets to be about the same price. I believe MTI and Tbyrne do the EGR modifications to the LS6 manifold and cost close to if not already 500 bucks. A price to pay for power

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Old Jun 4, 2001 | 02:09 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jRaskell:
My question regarding the vortec intake is whether the design is based on the stock intake or on Edlebrock's Bigmouth intake base..</font>
Yep, It is designed after the HI-FLOW intake. It will also bolt to the FastBurn heads with the raised intake lines. At least that's what S-D said when I last talked to them.

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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 02:37 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by dhirocz:
I think there ought to be a 'limited time' discount for these intakes since we had to wait so long. An introductory price may just be what SD needs to do to earn back those who turned away, and make those who are waiting a little less angry(LIKE ME!!!). I think $300 is a good deal for the first 1000 orders, don't you think?

S-D, Edelbrock, ARE YOU LISTENING???

I'm starting to wonder...
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Do you really think they're going to sell 1000 of these intakes? I bet they havent sold 1000 regular TPI intakes in the last 5-10 years!

My dad is anxiously awaiting the release of this intake too. He thinks his engine is going to beat mine.


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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 05:23 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by branz28:
Not exactly. After all is said and done. It gets to be about the same price. I believe MTI and Tbyrne do the EGR modifications to the LS6 manifold and cost close to if not already 500 bucks. A price to pay for power
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Yea, but thats the WHOLE manifold... its not missing plenum and runners.
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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 08:58 AM
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I think they will eventually do over a 1000 intakes the 1st day they sell.

Anywayz. Vortec heads are the future and will be bolted on instead of camel-humps, so eventually if a 3rd gen ever becomes a collector, there will be a market........for eternity. They prolly lost alot of sales because of their BS in realeasing them, I know they lost mine I allready paid too much for heads.

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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 11:43 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Kevin91Z:
Do you really think they're going to sell 1000 of these intakes? I bet they havent sold 1000 regular TPI intakes in the last 5-10 years!
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No...but that's the point... I want one cheaper than $400 after all this waiting. I'm sure there's alot more that feel the same way. I wanted something unique, and a Vortec 350 with a nice cam and a supercharged superram would be just that. Now I'm kicking myself in the a$$ for not using 'Vette heads...I could of been driving my car right now instead of letting it bake in the sun, motorless. I'm now considering getting rid of the heads, since it's not worth my time to wait anymore.

I'll look to sell the heads. If I still have them by the time they release the base (next year at this rate), I MAY buy one, depending on my budget. $400 is too much, especially after such a long wait.

I can tell you one thing...there were lines to buy this...now it'll take them time to sell these, after all the BS!

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Old Jun 5, 2001 | 08:41 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by eddie89TA:
i spoke to a guy named jeff from scoggin dickey, he told me that they got a tpi motor on the dyno right now with the prototype base zz4 cam and vortek heads (new springs) and it pulled 335hp 405ftlbs.tork!!! with stock tpi injectors and runners, plennum and afpr.</font>
So it made less power than ZZ4 heads/ported stock base? Once upon a time I wanted one of these, and maybe my opinion will change once they hit the streets. But for now I think there are better combos fot the same or a little more $$$ than the iron Vortec's and SD TPI manifold. I hope I am wrong



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Old Jun 6, 2001 | 12:37 PM
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Does it really matter? By the time we even get a glimpse of the vortec TPI intake, we'll all be 100 years old and our arthritis will be too bad for us to be able to install it. For now why doesnt everyone spend the SAME money and get some trick flows?

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Old Jun 6, 2001 | 06:19 PM
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I'm starting to seriously think about selling the Vortec heads and getting the Aluminum L98 heads or maybe Trickflow if I can find a decent set for a good price. I'm sick and tired of waiting, has anyone invited them to read out posts? There's only been 40 threads on this topic, and they all pertain to WAITING!
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Old Jun 6, 2001 | 07:52 PM
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I read all of the posts, but I have nothing to do with the Parts Department. I do know that the dyno engine is being tested with different cams and a couple of sets of heads. I think they are testing the ZZ4 cam, LT4 Hot Cam, and the L98 cam should be last. The first heads dyno'd were the Modified Vortecs, I heard that there is Edelbrock E-Tec's 200's on there now. If the casting was right on the first 2 prototypes it would have probably been out already. I seen the intake already, it looks great, just needs to be machined right. The same casting/machining problems are happening with the "casting" company's regular intakes also.

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Old Jun 7, 2001 | 01:01 PM
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Hey Joe I think you guys are losing out on a lot of business. Too bad you cant print this thread out and *HINT HINT* show it to someone who can kick *** and get things moving.

Edelbrock used to have back orders on their regular TPI intakes back 3 years ago when I was looking to buy one. I remember at LEAST #25 on the backorder list on this board. Say @ $300 each that is $7500 in sales from 1 product if they can produce. That seems stupid to not go ahead and make a run on them.

The point is people are chomping at the bit to get a product. Think of those NOT on this board that want one. I bet there are more not chiming in.

As usual, the TPI gets kicked to the curb to wait. And then take it in the rear when the time comes.



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Old Jun 7, 2001 | 06:57 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Guido:
Hey Joe I think you guys are losing out on a lot of business. Too bad you cant print this thread out and *HINT HINT* show it to someone who can kick *** and get things moving.</font>
I have no influence, and what business they loose does not affect me since I work in the dealership Service Department. Its not my deal, I let them know all the time about the interest there was in the intake. I know its being pushed on to be finished. Each of the prototype intakes cost $6500 in development costs, plus the patents and R+D on it. Theres allot of money tied up in the intake from what I hear. The person who originally came up with the idea no longer works here either, he was the one who came up with the measurements and what not.

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