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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 11:26 AM
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Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K315-465-450 - Trick Flow® 465 HP Super 23® Top-End Engine

has anybody used this setup. im looking for a new set of heads and cam for my forgedd 355 tpi iroc
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 03:31 PM
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Re: Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K315-465-450 - Trick Flow® 465 HP Super 23® Top-End En

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has anybody used this setup. im looking for a new set of heads and cam for my forgedd 355 tpi iroc
Got any links?

I have two sets of TFS 195 heads and very happy with them especially in relation to the price
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 11:31 PM
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Re: Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K315-465-450 - Trick Flow® 465 HP Super 23® Top-End En

maybe you can help me pick a cam to go with these heads and my application. i have a forged 355 with a completely built tpi setup tiny lunati voodoom s/r world product heads, hooker headersm and magnaflow cat back. i want something i can still use as my daily diver just get some more streetable power i mean the car pulls ok but im looking to gain a decent amout more any sugestions
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Old Dec 1, 2009 | 11:38 PM
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Re: Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K315-465-450 - Trick Flow® 465 HP Super 23® Top-End En

also hows the included cam in this package 230/234 degree duration at .050, .528/.539 in. and will all this work with my tpi setup
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 10:39 AM
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Re: Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K315-465-450 - Trick Flow® 465 HP Super 23® Top-End En

johnny that duration is higher than i would run with tpi, how modified is your tpi? (what base, what runners, how much porting)? I can pretty much gurantee you that if you don't have massive porting, that cam is not going to be very useful...

i would run a cam in the mid 220s on duration side instead of in the 230s.... the cam you mentioned is more geared toward a 6000 rpm peak which no factory tpi can near support. 90% of modified setups can't support that kind of rpm range.
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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Re: Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K315-465-450 - Trick Flow® 465 HP Super 23® Top-End En

even with the highflow tpi thats been nicely ported out, that cam is too look for a cam in the 220's duration that lift is fine but the duration is way too big for tpi
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Old Dec 2, 2009 | 05:35 PM
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Re: Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K315-465-450 - Trick Flow® 465 HP Super 23® Top-End En

i have a edelbrock base, slp runners, 52mm bbk throttle body, ford 24lb injectors. i ported the **** out of the plenum itself. the runners werent hit that hard just near the ends and i gasket matched. how much more porting should i do. also does anyone have any sound clips of some different cams idling. please someone help me pick the best cam for those heads and my application
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Old Dec 4, 2009 | 07:58 PM
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Re: Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K315-465-450 - Trick Flow® 465 HP Super 23® Top-End En

Originally Posted by johnny89345
maybe you can help me pick a cam to go with these heads and my application. i have a forged 355 with a completely built tpi setup tiny lunati voodoom s/r world product heads, hooker headersm and magnaflow cat back. i want something i can still use as my daily diver just get some more streetable power i mean the car pulls ok but im looking to gain a decent amout more any sugestions
aside from guys telling you that cam is to Big.
(not with deeper gears 4.11) AND a convrtr.

the best way to make that car. get up and go with what you have is Gears and a convertr... you add that to just a stock L98 and you will eat most of the cars on this site...thats the plane truth..

the eng is a AIR PUMP. make a good air pump.. and make it work Hard.
by adding gears. and a converter to get the air pump in the RPM that it works best at..= car moves faster..

Remember: a car is a box of parts.
if all the parts are made to work well with EA other you get a fun ride.

any few parts not matched up will make a dog.
you have to look at every thing.. not just the eng.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 12:53 AM
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Re: Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K315-465-450 - Trick Flow® 465 HP Super 23® Top-End En

well i have a 5 speed currently with 342's but have a new 373 rear just waiting to go in.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 05:34 AM
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Re: Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K315-465-450 - Trick Flow® 465 HP Super 23® Top-End En

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well i have a 5 speed currently with 342's but have a new 373 rear just waiting to go in.
3.73 are your best bet.. but.. with a 5 speed and say 4.11/4.10 (best)you still have a good overdrive (5th gear) and you will see you will not have to use 1st so much.. the nexed thing is some sticky tires..go cheap dont spend alot of money till you know what you want to do..

try the Mickytomson sportsmen or indy profile. or Comp TA's
(all good and sticky)
before you dump $100 more on top price tires..and you dont have to have all 4 matching tires..black walls out.. good stuff out back.. less spendy up front.(drag race)..

the 3.42 and the 3.73 dont look like they are that diff. but you will feel the diff in pull. at 3rd gear and 4th.. and even more in 3rd and 4th with 4.11/4.10

back in the 80's you would have to have 4.56 gears in a 66 chevl cuss we would stuff N5015'S out back in mickytomson tires..(them some bigones)
that ship with a 454 would run 11.90's all day long..and still drive on the hy way home.(love that car) i want another one!!
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 05:50 AM
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Re: Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K315-465-450 - Trick Flow® 465 HP Super 23® Top-End En

imo 4.10 is to big of a gear for your setup........ i'd probably think twice about going 3.73s too .... tpi doesn't need steep gears because it runs out of steam very very early..... by the time your car hits 5,500 rpms it's pretty much over with... so keeping your car at a higher rpm isn't all that realistic in the go fast world.

now if you had a stealth ram, lt1 intake or mini ram i'd be all about the 4.10s and the above mentioned cam, but as artic said an engine is more than just adding a part or two to make it go fast.

btw if you want to gain some extra rpms on that engine you will want to siamese your runners in, i would say a minimum of 3inches.
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Old Dec 5, 2009 | 08:49 AM
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Re: Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K315-465-450 - Trick Flow® 465 HP Super 23® Top-End En

if he wants 1 Point over a stock tpi and 8.5.1CR. 350.. it is..But
But i think he's looking for some get up and Go..
not get up and go slow!!

A stock TPI eng might run out of steam.(5500). and take alot longer to get to the 5500 to 5800 RPM with out gears.. thats the Point.. to get in that RPM faster you need gears to get you there..lol
vets run the TPI and pull till 5800 (and thats nothing specl)


put a pro boxer on a 10 speed bike. gear it High

now put a skinny kid. on a 10 speed bike nexed to Him. geard low.. whos getting to the end of the block first..

take 2 cars with same eng buld.. 1 geard low ..1 geard High
wich one will be the faster.. in the 1/4 mile/ light to light

you dont need to run 7000 rpm to be fast.

the only way to be fast with 3.23 or 3.42 gears is with 15lbs of boost

alot of guys think the Super ram is only good till 6000...LOL
for some silly resn mine pulls till 6400 even when i shift at 6200. silly thing should know when to stop pulling.. but it's good for some mid 10's and low 11's but that car has a slow TPI on it so what do i know..
and them times are with 4.11 gears..

your eng is a air pump
make it pump air.. give it the parts to pump air better this is was..

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Old Dec 6, 2009 | 01:02 AM
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Re: Trick Flow Specialties TFS-K315-465-450 - Trick Flow® 465 HP Super 23® Top-End En

my tpi is not stock. the tpi set up is all aftermarket and the runners are siamesed about an extra 2 inches back and everything else is ported pretty nicely. i have world heads and a mild voodoo cam. i currently have enough power to snap the tires free from say a 20-25 mph roll. i just want help picking a better head/cam combo. i along with most others cannot afford every thing all at once so i decided why not start there at my weak point. im not looking for a drag car either but i want enough to spank half these cars on the road as this car will be my daily driver for now. i want a nice sounding cam, with a decent chop, but good gains all around. o and i plan on having tpis make me a chip so please guys help me pick a set that will fit my needs. i herd afr 195s will get the job done but i know nothing in this area.
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