LT1 vs Miniram
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LT1 vs Miniram
I'm sold on putting a LT1 intake on my 383 L98. I have herad the LT1 is very similar to the Miniram, is this true? I was looking through the dyno #'s in the TPIS catalog and they say that the Miniram made 487hp at 6500rpm and 437tq at 5250rpm on a 383 with Airflow heads, modded MAF, and 58mm TB; but the big thing was that the tourqe never dropped below 400 between 3000rpm and 6250 rpm. Would a stock unported LT1 intake perfrom just as well on my 383 stroker and give me about the same power curve? What heads would work best? How long does it take to take the TPI off and put an LT1 on?
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i was wondering the exact same thing.... i have been considering putting either a miniram or a modified LT1 on a ZZ4... i was wondering if the LT1 would perform similarly ... mostly because the LT1 setup is a lot cheaper!
Chris89GTA, I'm in the middle of the swap onto my ZZ4 right now. I'm taking my time and trying to do everything right and make it look good also, but I'll be done in a week or so. I'm anxious to see how much torque I've lost on the bottom. Frankly, the car is holy hell to launch, so I don't think I'm going to miss it. I owned a '94 TA a couple of years ago and loved the power curve. I finished the painting and shining last night, so it's ready to bolt on if I get all my fasteners tomorrow. Check it out.
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I'm not sure, but I think I read a little ways back that the Mini-ram was designed to be similar to the LT1 intakes powerband...wouldn't suprise me, they're both short-runner intakes. I can't wait to get mine going! Shouldn't be any major differences in power output, I've seen the LT1 intakes make power on huge engines and run 10s so it must be possible...
I'm still awaiting my intake, I bought it last week...How'd you get that thing's paint to shine like that? I wanted to paint mine black, and put the Corvette fuelrail covers on it to cover the wiring/hoses......I'm trying to keep from shipping it to be powdercoated!
I'm still awaiting my intake, I bought it last week...How'd you get that thing's paint to shine like that? I wanted to paint mine black, and put the Corvette fuelrail covers on it to cover the wiring/hoses......I'm trying to keep from shipping it to be powdercoated!
The shine is just the camera flash. Yeah, I debated between black or red. I think black with Corvette covers would look tough. I got all my allen head SS fasteners today and my 90 deg. coolant hoses. It's just a matter of finding the time to do the install now.
Scoggin-Dickey has LT4 intakes, brand new, for $190.95 on their site:
http://www.sdpc2000.com/cart.asp?act...d=738&pid=2589
http://www.sdpc2000.com/cart.asp?act...d=738&pid=2589
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Yeah, but didn't John say he doesn't like using them because the ports don't line up like they do on the standard LT1 intake? I'll probab just end up porting mine anyway...any mods possible to retrofit an LT4?
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Yeah, but didn't John say he doesn't like using them because the ports don't line up like they do on the standard LT1 intake? I'll probab just end up porting mine anyway...any mods possible to retrofit an LT4?
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Originally posted by Vader
Scoggin-Dickey has LT4 intakes, brand new, for $190.95 on their site:
http://www.sdpc2000.com/cart.asp?act...d=738&pid=2589
Scoggin-Dickey has LT4 intakes, brand new, for $190.95 on their site:
http://www.sdpc2000.com/cart.asp?act...d=738&pid=2589
This is a hobby of mine, I do it on the side.
I don't sell them un-modified.
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I know this is old, and from all I have read you have stopped providing this service, yet was hoping you would consider doing one for a 91 y body for me. Or at least provide all the info to do it myself?
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Re: LT1 vs Miniram
As far as I understand he stopped doing those a looooonnngggg time ago. Took down his website too. Going to have to DIY if you want one. Just search the forum.
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Re: LT1 vs Miniram
Do yourself a favor and just buy a miniram.
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The Holley Stealth Ram will probably get you similar performance... another short runner intake. The Miniram is pretty pricey (by the time you get the fuel rails and stuff) unless you find a decent used one.
In fact for just a litltle more than the price of the Miniram, you can probably get an Edelbrock Pro-Flo intake manifold, a set of Vortec iron heads and the peripherals to run it. If your current engine is stock, that combo would make far more power than just throwing a Miniram on a set of stock heads.
In fact for just a litltle more than the price of the Miniram, you can probably get an Edelbrock Pro-Flo intake manifold, a set of Vortec iron heads and the peripherals to run it. If your current engine is stock, that combo would make far more power than just throwing a Miniram on a set of stock heads.
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Re: LT1 vs Miniram
if you have a camaro, buy a stealth ram, the cost difference fer the small loss in performance is worth it, and you can MAKE it fit under the hood. if you have a firebird, u gotta buy a hood, or buy the miniram, it fits under the hood, and you get what you expect, low end torque, high end power. remember, though, all the other parts have to flow in order to get the biggest bang fer yer buck.
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While I appreciate all the opinions, I have a miniram for the y body, and if I wanted a stealth ram I would buy one gents.
The lt1 intake is for a project I have planned, and the whole point is low buck, oem parts. I can probably do most of the work myself if I had the details.
The lt1 intake is for a project I have planned, and the whole point is low buck, oem parts. I can probably do most of the work myself if I had the details.
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https://www.eecis.udel.edu/~davis/z2...n/swapping.htm
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tpi/...utor-hole.html
the info is out there, I know I've seen it a ton. I formerly had a converted intake.
If you can't do it yourself then the classifieds may yield you one, though I haven't seen one in a while.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tpi/...utor-hole.html
the info is out there, I know I've seen it a ton. I formerly had a converted intake.
If you can't do it yourself then the classifieds may yield you one, though I haven't seen one in a while.
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Re: LT1 vs Miniram
the question appeared to have been asked of a long gone participant on this forum, and it was not entirely clear that you had a miniram. factory parts may be less expensive at the onset, but they almost always have built in compromises that - in the end - cost money to deal with. i've never dealt with the LT1 intake for that purpose, but right off hand the lack of a distributor on the LT makes it a loser if you want to compare it to performance alternatives.
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Re: LT1 vs Miniram
the question appeared to have been asked of a long gone participant on this forum, and it was not entirely clear that you had a miniram. factory parts may be less expensive at the onset, but they almost always have built in compromises that - in the end - cost money to deal with. i've never dealt with the LT1 intake for that purpose, but right off hand the lack of a distributor on the LT makes it a loser if you want to compare it to performance alternatives.
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Re: LT1 vs Miniram
Plus TPIS actually makes a miniram to fit the LT1 engine now. I think factory they flow around 220 range cfm. The miniram is around 315cfm with a 1206 gasket. I guess there is a market for it. My opinion is the work involved to get it to fit a traditional sbc isnt worth it. Plus the dis hole has to be dead on so you have no issues with eating cam gears.
1-2500rpm is 'ugh'. 2500-4000 is 'meh'. 4000-7200 is Oh boy oh boy oh boy!
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1206 ports? Does the lt1 intake take a port that big?
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Re: LT1 vs Miniram
the question appeared to have been asked of a long gone participant on this forum, and it was not entirely clear that you had a miniram. factory parts may be less expensive at the onset, but they almost always have built in compromises that - in the end - cost money to deal with. i've never dealt with the LT1 intake for that purpose, but right off hand the lack of a distributor on the LT makes it a loser if you want to compare it to performance alternatives.
But, the more I have read it seems a single plane conversion to efi with an elbow would give better results, and be cheaper, simpler. Still fun.
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