Pro's & Cons of full manual option in transgo Reprogramming kit
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Car: 89rs (previous 2.8)
Engine: 406
Transmission: 700r4 (for now)
Pro's & Cons of full manual option in transgo Reprogramming kit
Anybody have any experience with this? I'm getting ready to install the kit, and doing a little inquirery...
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Car: 84 Z28 Convertible 2 Seater
Engine: Dart Little-M SBC 400
Transmission: Pro-built Automatics 700R4
Axle/Gears: Strange Engineering 3:73
Im looking for the same info, because in a few weeks I will be bringing my 700r4 to a Transmission shop to have a Transgo Reprogram Kit, Transgo Shift Kit, Vette Servo. I have been shopping around for a while and have been quoted anywhere fron 150.00 to 450.00 just to put this stuff in a tranny. Also dont forget you will ne the lockup swith if you are going Carb and older HEI.
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Full manual doesn't really give you much advantage over the standard Transgo shift kit. It will allow you to short shift at full throttle if you wish, but you had better be careful not to take off in third gear accidently too often or you will burn the clutches.
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Car: 86 firebird with 98 firebird interi
Engine: pump gas 427sbc Dart Lil M 13.5:1
Transmission: Oldani TH400 w/ BTE 9" convertor
Axle/Gears: 31 spline Moser/full spool/4.11Rich
I bought the transgo reprogrammer kit, 3-4 upshift sleeve, .500 booster valve, and vette servo. It was installed straight up no manual and it does everything I wanted it to do for my street/strip combo. Real test is this Sat. night-first race on new motor/recalibrated tranny. I can shift manually at any rpm without it being governed and automatically shifts higher than stock, don't ask rpm cause I did'nt pay much attention before but it is higher. The ONLY thing that about screwed me last Sat. night was that it will down shift manually into any gear at any speed. I was racing from a roller and accidentially dropped into first (long enough to see the bright red shift light blaring at me) so a new shifter will be ordered after the carb.
By the way, The Bird and Stang met up at the next stop light-He was SERIOUSLY out gunned. I don't condone street racing at this age, but sometimes these teenie boopers need a good *** whoopin to keep'em in check! Only second race I can remember where the guys were all excited about being beat and praised the car-usually it's the finger or "pull over and I'll kick your ***"-what's that about?
By the way, The Bird and Stang met up at the next stop light-He was SERIOUSLY out gunned. I don't condone street racing at this age, but sometimes these teenie boopers need a good *** whoopin to keep'em in check! Only second race I can remember where the guys were all excited about being beat and praised the car-usually it's the finger or "pull over and I'll kick your ***"-what's that about?
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Car: 89rs (previous 2.8)
Engine: 406
Transmission: 700r4 (for now)
I plan on putting the kit and the servo in today. I opened it yesterday, at first I WAS LIKE YEAH RIGHT! But after some study and research, I,m not so intimidated, I can do this.
Yestrday I called around here in CB and Omaha, just to see what it would cost.....Well I could not find one reputable shop that would even touch it. The reply I got was...We only mess with those things if we are building the tranny.....
Well the tranny is out of the car, Freshly rebuilt, never been run. No way am I paying rebuild price for an upgrade.
I think I'll go with the race auto configuration, my wife also drives the car, and her" race smarts" Are just developing, I can hear her now.......Whats it meann when the little light in the round thing on the dash comes on.....
As for racing kids....gotta love it ..... I dont get many takers at lights....I think the choppy idle intimidates to many.....
I hope to have the new tranny and converter in this weekend.
Ive been running on a 700r4 I got out of the JY for 35.00. one ear is missing..and I have to fight the brakes to hold it at the lights.
As for durability of these trannies.....I think they are tougher than people give them credit for....the JY tranny has been abused for 8 months now, If it wasnt for the missing ear, I would have it rebuilt for a spare.
Yestrday I called around here in CB and Omaha, just to see what it would cost.....Well I could not find one reputable shop that would even touch it. The reply I got was...We only mess with those things if we are building the tranny.....
Well the tranny is out of the car, Freshly rebuilt, never been run. No way am I paying rebuild price for an upgrade.
I think I'll go with the race auto configuration, my wife also drives the car, and her" race smarts" Are just developing, I can hear her now.......Whats it meann when the little light in the round thing on the dash comes on.....
As for racing kids....gotta love it ..... I dont get many takers at lights....I think the choppy idle intimidates to many.....
I hope to have the new tranny and converter in this weekend.
Ive been running on a 700r4 I got out of the JY for 35.00. one ear is missing..and I have to fight the brakes to hold it at the lights.
As for durability of these trannies.....I think they are tougher than people give them credit for....the JY tranny has been abused for 8 months now, If it wasnt for the missing ear, I would have it rebuilt for a spare.
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Car: 89rs (previous 2.8)
Engine: 406
Transmission: 700r4 (for now)
Originally posted by IHI
By the way, The Bird and Stang met up at the next stop light-He was SERIOUSLY out gunned. I don't condone street racing at this age, but sometimes these teenie boopers need a good *** whoopin to keep'em in check! Only second race I can remember where the guys were all excited about being beat and praised the car-usually it's the finger or "pull over and I'll kick your ***"-what's that about?
By the way, The Bird and Stang met up at the next stop light-He was SERIOUSLY out gunned. I don't condone street racing at this age, but sometimes these teenie boopers need a good *** whoopin to keep'em in check! Only second race I can remember where the guys were all excited about being beat and praised the car-usually it's the finger or "pull over and I'll kick your ***"-what's that about?
My wife does most the street racing....lyou see she is 24...about 15 years younger than myself....wish I had a car like this when I was 20....Most likely would of killed myself, and had to sleep in it, to afford to drive it....before I built this car , I had no tickets for about 15yrs...now 2 in the last year (Speeding). The wife has one under her belt.
Anyway, wish me luck, and I'll keep ya all posted.
Also the B&M megashifter comes today...another fish to fry...Hopefully I will have a timeslip for you guys next week..
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Car: 89rs (previous 2.8)
Engine: 406
Transmission: 700r4 (for now)
Originally posted by DTL504
Also dont forget you will ne the lockup swith if you are going Carb and older HEI.
Also dont forget you will ne the lockup swith if you are going Carb and older HEI.
Thanks for the replys fellas...I appreciate the input...
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Car: 86 firebird with 98 firebird interi
Engine: pump gas 427sbc Dart Lil M 13.5:1
Transmission: Oldani TH400 w/ BTE 9" convertor
Axle/Gears: 31 spline Moser/full spool/4.11Rich
Hey Riley, the one thing that stood out in my mind about putting in this kit, was that when you pull out the front pump the 2-3 clutches come out of alignment, at least thats what my tranny builder told me. Anyway just be prepared for a slow, meticulous install and get it right the first time, it takes my guy on average 3 hours to install this kit (on his bench) and he does this stuff for a living. You've defianately got bigger ***** than me my friend-GOOD LUCK!! Let me know how it turns out.
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Car: '94 Corvette
Engine: LT1
Transmission: 4L60E
I have the B&M version, and you just needed to drill a couple holes in the valvebody, drill open some paths, change out some pistons & springs. Beyond that it's like a regular shift kit install.
I'll probabaly try the trans-go full manual kit myself. I'll need to get me a new valvebody first
The B&M Manual-Pak, is way-way to harsh on my drivetrain.
This machine is for road racing, I can't see any other use guy's ???
Am I missing something? We are talking about the manual only right? I thought drag racing was more for consistancy, except the all out apples to apples racings.
I will agree that no stick, can out shift one of these full manual trannies There clutch foot, just isn't fast enough.
Ron
I'll probabaly try the trans-go full manual kit myself. I'll need to get me a new valvebody first
The B&M Manual-Pak, is way-way to harsh on my drivetrain.
This machine is for road racing, I can't see any other use guy's ???
Am I missing something? We are talking about the manual only right? I thought drag racing was more for consistancy, except the all out apples to apples racings.
I will agree that no stick, can out shift one of these full manual trannies There clutch foot, just isn't fast enough.
Ron
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Car: 89rs (previous 2.8)
Engine: 406
Transmission: 700r4 (for now)
Thats pretty much the same as the transgo full manual...two extra hole to drill and some springs and valves. I think I'm going with the full manual option, sounds like alot more fun...
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Here is the opposing opinion. Unless it is a Track only car I see no reason for the Full Manual Kit and many reasons not to use it. The TransGo Reprogramming Kit will still allow you to hold a gear to ANY RPM and backshift into any gear, you just won't be able to select 3rd from a standstill and cook the Tranny! Not to mention the fact that after the novelty of it wears off it gets old real quick and is nothing like driving a real Standard, just to clarify.
My $.02
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Car: 89rs (previous 2.8)
Engine: 406
Transmission: 700r4 (for now)
Im done the kit is in...I went with the auto....no manual only. I researched a little more and decided on the auto option...not to mention I broke my bit before I could Drill the holes for the full stick....
When I took the VB I only came up wit 6 check *****...I put 7 back in, 4 in the case part and 3 in the valve body. The missing 7 ball is......hopefully not stuck between two gears. There is no way in hell I would dig any deeper than I did to install the kit. I cant believe people actually put these in while the tranny is in the car...:hail:
Anyway, glad its done, I hope it works, I dont want to do it again, never.
Thanks for your input guys...glad I did the right thing thanks to cheap bits...
When I took the VB I only came up wit 6 check *****...I put 7 back in, 4 in the case part and 3 in the valve body. The missing 7 ball is......hopefully not stuck between two gears. There is no way in hell I would dig any deeper than I did to install the kit. I cant believe people actually put these in while the tranny is in the car...:hail:
Anyway, glad its done, I hope it works, I dont want to do it again, never.
Thanks for your input guys...glad I did the right thing thanks to cheap bits...
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Car: 86 firebird with 98 firebird interi
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Transmission: Oldani TH400 w/ BTE 9" convertor
Axle/Gears: 31 spline Moser/full spool/4.11Rich
Just be sure to let us know if all is well after install and testing! Tight pockets & BIG *****.
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Car: 89rs (previous 2.8)
Engine: 406
Transmission: 700r4 (for now)
Originally posted by IHI
Hey Riley, the one thing that stood out in my mind about putting in this kit, was that when you pull out the front pump the 2-3 clutches come out of alignment, at least thats what my tranny builder told me.
Hey Riley, the one thing that stood out in my mind about putting in this kit, was that when you pull out the front pump the 2-3 clutches come out of alignment, at least thats what my tranny builder told me.
After all, if a carpenter that had never seen the inside of a valve body can do it ( I think) Most anybody can.
Hey, I could be the Transgo poster child if my ***** weren't so big!!
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Car: 86 firebird with 98 firebird interi
Engine: pump gas 427sbc Dart Lil M 13.5:1
Transmission: Oldani TH400 w/ BTE 9" convertor
Axle/Gears: 31 spline Moser/full spool/4.11Rich
UH-O!!!
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Car: 89rs (previous 2.8)
Engine: 406
Transmission: 700r4 (for now)
Dont forget the swap fellas... the tranny is out of an 83 caprice....27spline....not my first choice for sure , but I bought it newly rebuilt, never been run, for 125.00....I have another post in the tech board.
Im building a 400ci TH400 That will be more strip than street....I'm runnung this combo to still have some fun, Till its done. I figure if the tranny holds up for a year even 2..I'm way ahead...The tranny in the car right now is a 83 700r4 also.Got it at the JY u-pull it for 35.00. It was missing one ear, But ive been driving it daily for about 7-8 mo now. But she is starting to give up, and I do not condone rebuilds in broken cases, especially in early models.
No uh oh here Buddy, I did my research.....
Im building a 400ci TH400 That will be more strip than street....I'm runnung this combo to still have some fun, Till its done. I figure if the tranny holds up for a year even 2..I'm way ahead...The tranny in the car right now is a 83 700r4 also.Got it at the JY u-pull it for 35.00. It was missing one ear, But ive been driving it daily for about 7-8 mo now. But she is starting to give up, and I do not condone rebuilds in broken cases, especially in early models.
No uh oh here Buddy, I did my research.....
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