Ok guys heres the cut and dry...

i have a 1982 camaro Z28 with a muncie 4spd ( not sure which model) i bought the car with that tranny

im crusing down the road in 2nd and as i shift into 3rd the shifter breaks. the little peace where the shifter linkage rod connects into the shifter broke.

so now i need a new shifter..... great...

call around town ( phoenix)

and no one carries the stock or aftermarket shifter for an 1982 camaro... just 5spd shifters for the 1983 and up

so i check online, on summit.

and sure enough there is hope

a 4 speed Hurst shifter for an 82

finally got it today... get the old shifter out ready to put the hurst in...

and.........

clearance problems!!!!???!?!

it doesn't fit basically...

the reverse linkage arm coming off the shifter hits up on the tail end of the transmission. so i look around harder. and the cuprit is the bracket that holds the shifter to the transmission.
the shifter needs to sit farther toward the drivers side and it would fit fine

so now that you all know what is going on..................

has anyone had any experience installing a hurst in an 82 camaro

is there some special bracket i need to buy?? and if so where can i get one.

i checked online and hurst says there is an installation kit required

but its 87 dollars!!!!!

it comes with everything assuming all you had was the transmission and nothing else..

but i have everything else!!! all i need is the damn bracket.

any help would be great

thanks

 

yes there is an install kit that you need to buy it comes with all the necessacary bolts, nuts and brackets and is a very easy install, in the install kit there is also heat treated linkage new plastic bushings, the levers that go on the side of the tranny and also spring steel clips to keep the linkage nice and tight for no slop shifts.

in other words the kit is worth the money
how much did you pay for your shifter?
I got mine from JEGS with the install kit for $177.00 and no shipping charges

also keep in mind the hurst pieces are all heat treated and guaranteed to be something like 15 times stronger than stock

 

shifter was 165 off of summit

well i guess i'll just have to break done and spend another 80 something dollars.

thx for the info

 

Those didn't come with a Muncie, only Saginaw or Warner... no Muncie will fit these cars without a certain amount of adapting... maybe that's why you can't find a shifter, if you're looking for one for a Muncie. If your car has the stock trans (torque arm mount made onto the extension housing), you need to correctly identify it.

If the reverse shifter shaft goes into the trans case in front of the extension housing, you have a Saginaw. If the reverse shifter shaft goes into the extension housing behind the case, it's a Warner T-10.

Vortech is right, you generally buy a shifter which is just the body, and an install kit which is application-specific. You will need both once you correctly identify what you have.

 

i'll hvae to get under the car to look again where the reverse arm goes in.

the guy i bought it from said he put a rebuild muncie in the car. cause the stock trannie was messed up

so i check the casting # and it apears to be a muncie made in like '70 to 74 i believe.

whether its an m-20 or m-21 im not sure. (highly doubt its a rock crusher.)

so its hard to tell

is a muncie almost identical to a borg waner t-10?

cause if it is i can get an install kit for a t-10

any help woud be great

 

oh also, i can't for seem reason get the new shifter to go into reverse when i am holding it in my hand.

why is that?

is there some sort of lockout on the shifter?

also

on the old shifter the pattern was the same as a normal 4speed except reverse was to the far left and DOWN

not to the far left and up

i have to PUSH the reverse linkage rod toward the front of the car to get it to go in reverse.

on the new shifter reverse is to the left and UP

because i can't get the shifter to go into reverse i can't see if this is the right shifter or not

 

I dont believe a shifter or install kit for a T-10 would be adaptable to a muncie however hurst does make a shifter and linkage kit for a muncie in the 3rd gen but requires floor pan modificationand can not be used with the stock center console

 

ok got under the car, the reverse linkae arm goes into the transimmsion case cover behind the ones for 1/2 3/4 but still on the main part of the transmission. it also looks like a 7 bolt cover

 

if it is 7 bolt cover and the reverse is on the side cover then it is a muncie.

if it is a 7 bolt cover and the reverse is on the side of the transmission(not the side cover) it is a saginaw

if it is a 9 bolt cover is is a t-10 and the reverse should be on the side cover but am not sure.

Levi

 

ok i think i finally got everything sorted out.

i thank you all greatly

the transmission is a saginaw

i need to pick up an install kit.

and the reason my reverse is down and not up

is because the bracket where the reverse linkage rod goes into the transmission faces down and not up

therefore switching the dircetion push/pull

i do apreciate the help alot

thx

 

when you get your install kit it will have a pressure sensitive sticker so you can cover the existing shift pattern on the console if you have one

 

is there anywhere in town anyone might know to pic up an install kit?

like loppers

i tried kragen/checker

or just order it off jegs or something

i need kit # 373-0022 but i don't see it on summit

also, how do i get the shifter to go into reverse if i am holding it in my hand...

 

I don't know what the problem is, but I would start by slipping that 1/4" rod (which comes with a new shifter) through the shifter and re-adjust the linkage rods. If it won't shift into reverse
after that, your linkage might be hitting something, etc.

 

it is a pain in the a$$ to get them in to reverse when they are new just use force, just call jegs they are pretty cheap.

 

Cant seem to find the shifter and install kit could you post which one you got.

 

This was 20 years ago. Might have better luck starting a new thread.

 

thanks I guess I didn't look at when this was posted

 

The way Hurst packaged 4-speed shifters was, the "shifter" itself, proper, was the same or close to it no matter what kind of car it was for; then the "installation kit" contained the parts that "adapted" the "shifter" to THE CAR. Which would include, the handle, the shift rods, the mounting brackets that the OP had trouble with all those years ago, and so on. The "shifter" proper had a few minor differences sometimes; maybe a little kink in the handle or something like that, but in the end, the Hurst 4-sp shifter was the Hurst 4-spd shifter. No matter whether it was for a Chevy, Frod, Nopowr, or whatever. If it was a 4-speed with external linkage, ... it was THAT shifter. Note however that the Frod "top-loader" 4-spd isn't in this discussion; its design uses a single internal rail, somewhat like the T-5, so it's a complete other beast. That means that, if you don't have the full "install kit", you aren't putting that shifter in your car, and making it work. As the OP discovered to his chagrin all those years ago.

No Muncie transmission ever came in these cars. Not in 82, not in any other year. Doesn't help the OP (or didn't back before you were born) that he didn't have a Munice, butt I don't know and can't tell what he actually had. The last year of the car Muncie 4-spd was around 73 or 74. The ONLY year of these cars that got ANY 4-speed was their first year, which was 82, and those got either the 6-cyl POS Saginaw (insert gagging and puking sounds here) which was around 80 - 90% of them, or the Borg-Warner T-10 in the rare lucky few. AFAIK Hurst discontinued the "install kit" for them all in the early to mid 90s or so. LONG gone. Decades ago.

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, butt, it is what it is. I used to have the old Hurst part #s butt since I didn't have one of those transmissions I didn't keep up with them. My late brother and I had a lively business rebuilding Muncies and T-10s from the late 70s into the late 80s, and we used to have A SHIPLOAD of T-10s and all manner of spare parts butt not for these cars; all the ones we had were for 60s and 70s cars, and we got rid of all of that around 30 years ago or more. It had got to the point that the crap we had accumulated from all of them became just so much junk sitting around taking up otherwise useful space, so we sold it all. Ended up, one of our main competitors bought it. Would have been in maybe about 1990 or so if memory serves.