Ripper or Pro 5.0?
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Ripper or Pro 5.0?
Which shifter is better for the T5? Stock one sucks, sloppy with long throws. Does one of them have a shorter throw than the other? Which is tighter? Any opinions appreciated. Also, where's the best place to get them cheap?
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The Pro 5.0 is the best. Period. Nothing compairs to it. The Hurst is close but the B&M is an absolute joke next to the pro 5.0. If you want all out performance you won't chose anything else.
Originally posted by ShiftyCapone
The Pro 5.0 is the best. Period. Nothing compairs to it. The Hurst is close but the B&M is an absolute joke next to the pro 5.0. If you want all out performance you won't chose anything else.
The Pro 5.0 is the best. Period. Nothing compairs to it. The Hurst is close but the B&M is an absolute joke next to the pro 5.0. If you want all out performance you won't chose anything else.
wish I would've known that when I bought my B&M
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my PRO 5.0 is really great. I had to put some loctite on the allen bolts that holds the 2 piece stick design together. Mine would just vibrate loose every now and then.
Originally posted by ShiftyCapone
The Pro 5.0 is the best. Period. Nothing compairs to it. The Hurst is close but the B&M is an absolute joke next to the pro 5.0. If you want all out performance you won't chose anything else.
The Pro 5.0 is the best. Period. Nothing compairs to it. The Hurst is close but the B&M is an absolute joke next to the pro 5.0. If you want all out performance you won't chose anything else.
Most people will just recommend what they bought themselves and some will even come off sounding like *******s.
That being said my B&M works great, but I didn't shop around for the best one either, it came with my 5 spd swap parts.
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My T-5 came with the "short throw" Hurst shifter but there was nothing short about the throw. :shrug: I felt like I was rowing gears in my big ol' F350.
I got tired of it and the ugly ball and just cut it in half and put new threads on. Then I installed a Euro-style **** on it (don't understand what's so "Euro" about it, it's a standard shift **** used in the whole world
) and it feels MUCH better now.
Before you spend $200 on a kit, try cutting your shifter stick in half.
Just my
Lou
I got tired of it and the ugly ball and just cut it in half and put new threads on. Then I installed a Euro-style **** on it (don't understand what's so "Euro" about it, it's a standard shift **** used in the whole world
) and it feels MUCH better now.Before you spend $200 on a kit, try cutting your shifter stick in half.
Just my

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Originally posted by rjmcgee
Most people will just recommend what they bought themselves and some will even come off sounding like *******s.
Most people will just recommend what they bought themselves and some will even come off sounding like *******s.
Some people base their decisions after driving all three. Like me. When I got my Pro 5.0 there weren't all these posts about people who love it and recomend it. I compaired all three and the Pro 5.0 had more design features than the rest for the same price (even cheaper since I never see the others on sale). Hence my decision. Didn't mean to come off too harsh but I don't preach about this thing because the "I happen to like it so it is the best" mentality doesn't fit here. This topic is covered all the time and a quick search will tell all. Some shifters don't have the stops that are crutial when power shifting. I was trying to be short, get my point accross, and encourage a search. Sorry, didn't mean to offend any B&M owners. You didn't design it so nothing personal. If you want more of a stock feel than the Pro 5.0 is not for you.
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I went with Hurst because being old school, Hurst has been around a long time, and if it wasn't for them there wouldn't be any shifters worth a crap. They also invented a device called a Hurst tool, first people to do that, made the world a lot safer, Pro 5.0 is probably OK, but they build their stuff for the Horsey guys and it just accidentally fits a Chevy,and,.. well.....I'm not spending my bucks at a Ford joint.
Just make sure that whatever you buy, that it has stop bolts that prevent you from ramming the slider into the gear and mangling the internals. The stock shifter doesn't, which is one of the reasons they have so many failures. You would've thought that some college boy at Warner gear was smart enough to figure out that someone in a Camaro would eventually try to power shift the tranny....like Duh, it is a Z28.
Just make sure that whatever you buy, that it has stop bolts that prevent you from ramming the slider into the gear and mangling the internals. The stock shifter doesn't, which is one of the reasons they have so many failures. You would've thought that some college boy at Warner gear was smart enough to figure out that someone in a Camaro would eventually try to power shift the tranny....like Duh, it is a Z28.
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Originally posted by blacksheep-1
I went with Hurst because being old school, Hurst has been around a long time, and if it wasn't for them there wouldn't be any shifters worth a crap. They also invented a device called a Hurst tool, first people to do that, made the world a lot safer, Pro 5.0 is probably OK, but they build their stuff for the Horsey guys and it just accidentally fits a Chevy,and,.. well.....I'm not spending my bucks at a Ford joint.
Just make sure that whatever you buy, that it has stop bolts that prevent you from ramming the slider into the gear and mangling the internals. The stock shifter doesn't, which is one of the reasons they have so many failures. You would've thought that some college boy at Warner gear was smart enough to figure out that someone in a Camaro would eventually try to power shift the tranny....like Duh, it is a Z28.
I went with Hurst because being old school, Hurst has been around a long time, and if it wasn't for them there wouldn't be any shifters worth a crap. They also invented a device called a Hurst tool, first people to do that, made the world a lot safer, Pro 5.0 is probably OK, but they build their stuff for the Horsey guys and it just accidentally fits a Chevy,and,.. well.....I'm not spending my bucks at a Ford joint.
Just make sure that whatever you buy, that it has stop bolts that prevent you from ramming the slider into the gear and mangling the internals. The stock shifter doesn't, which is one of the reasons they have so many failures. You would've thought that some college boy at Warner gear was smart enough to figure out that someone in a Camaro would eventually try to power shift the tranny....like Duh, it is a Z28.
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Well I don't know why ShiftyCapone calls the B&M a joke :shrug: I own one of each and I can tell you that there both high quality pieces. One thing you might want to consider is if you like having your shifter stick showing then you might not want to go for the Pro 5.0 (mustang shifter
) cause it's ugly, the B&M one is a nicer looking aluminum one. I switched over to the B&M shifter for my t-56, seams to shift better for me and looks a lot better to but I might go back to the Pro 5.0 if I get a louis short stick for it.
If you do get the Pro 5.0 you might as well throw out the instructions cause there for a mustang lol
) cause it's ugly, the B&M one is a nicer looking aluminum one. I switched over to the B&M shifter for my t-56, seams to shift better for me and looks a lot better to but I might go back to the Pro 5.0 if I get a louis short stick for it.If you do get the Pro 5.0 you might as well throw out the instructions cause there for a mustang lol
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I got my pro5.0 this past weekend. I still havent drove the car due to other parts not arriving.
Install was quite easy. Car had auto in it before, so I cant compare shoter throw. However, compared to my old s10, its MUCH shorter.
Part is heavy, solid feeling. Adjustment is easy.
So the shifter shaft will show? Damnit. I'll just paint it black before I spin the **** on it.
Install was quite easy. Car had auto in it before, so I cant compare shoter throw. However, compared to my old s10, its MUCH shorter.
Part is heavy, solid feeling. Adjustment is easy.
So the shifter shaft will show? Damnit. I'll just paint it black before I spin the **** on it.
Originally posted by ShiftyCapone
You are right and some people make blanket statements without knowing the reasoning behind ones choice. I geuss you could self diagnose yourself in the same manor.
Some people base their decisions after driving all three. Like me. When I got my Pro 5.0 there weren't all these posts about people who love it and recomend it. I compaired all three and the Pro 5.0 had more design features than the rest for the same price (even cheaper since I never see the others on sale). Hence my decision. Didn't mean to come off too harsh but I don't preach about this thing because the "I happen to like it so it is the best" mentality doesn't fit here. This topic is covered all the time and a quick search will tell all. Some shifters don't have the stops that are crutial when power shifting. I was trying to be short, get my point accross, and encourage a search. Sorry, didn't mean to offend any B&M owners. You didn't design it so nothing personal. If you want more of a stock feel than the Pro 5.0 is not for you.
You are right and some people make blanket statements without knowing the reasoning behind ones choice. I geuss you could self diagnose yourself in the same manor.
Some people base their decisions after driving all three. Like me. When I got my Pro 5.0 there weren't all these posts about people who love it and recomend it. I compaired all three and the Pro 5.0 had more design features than the rest for the same price (even cheaper since I never see the others on sale). Hence my decision. Didn't mean to come off too harsh but I don't preach about this thing because the "I happen to like it so it is the best" mentality doesn't fit here. This topic is covered all the time and a quick search will tell all. Some shifters don't have the stops that are crutial when power shifting. I was trying to be short, get my point accross, and encourage a search. Sorry, didn't mean to offend any B&M owners. You didn't design it so nothing personal. If you want more of a stock feel than the Pro 5.0 is not for you.
Not sure what makes B&M a joke though, short and accurate shifts. You cant overshift with it either because the shifter handle stops against the aluminum base.
I am after all out performance and I chose something else.
I think any of the three would be a huge improvement over the stock shifter.
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One of the reasons that your trans may shift differently is because some where along the line BW went with an automatic clutch type material instead of brass for the synchros. This made it shift smoother for all of the grandmas out there.
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Originally posted by KiLLJ0Y
can some one post pictures of the 5.0 for a T56 intalled or uninstalled? i have a hurst but i think i might want to change it
can some one post pictures of the 5.0 for a T56 intalled or uninstalled? i have a hurst but i think i might want to change it
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I only called it a joke because of the difference in feel of the two. It is still far superior to stock. I didn't mean to stray from that. I agree 100% anything is better than stock. I tried the B&M and liked it a lot. Then I drove one with the Pro 5.0. The difference was shocking. The B&M is not a joke when compaired to the stocker, it is just not on par with the Pro. Thats all. I didn't mean to make so many people angry [\hide]. I tested both the B&M and Pro on world class T5's. The Hurst on a T56.
As stated above, anything is better than stock. The B&M will supply what most people want in a shifter. It retains some of the stock feel yet provides nice crisp clean shifts. I should have said that in my first post as not to infer that it was a bad part. There was just a big difference in feel when shifting. The Pro 5.0 is loud, clanky, indestructable, and transmits all kinds of gear whine. It is noisy yet incredibly fast and short between shifts. It can be annoying to some for daily driven applications. I wanted nothing to do with a redesigned mustang part until I had the chance to try it out. The difference was so dramatic in feel that it more than made up for where it came from. Chances are you will be happy with whatever you choose.
As stated above, anything is better than stock. The B&M will supply what most people want in a shifter. It retains some of the stock feel yet provides nice crisp clean shifts. I should have said that in my first post as not to infer that it was a bad part. There was just a big difference in feel when shifting. The Pro 5.0 is loud, clanky, indestructable, and transmits all kinds of gear whine. It is noisy yet incredibly fast and short between shifts. It can be annoying to some for daily driven applications. I wanted nothing to do with a redesigned mustang part until I had the chance to try it out. The difference was so dramatic in feel that it more than made up for where it came from. Chances are you will be happy with whatever you choose.
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I've owned both, the ripper and the Pro 5.0. both are great, but the Pro 5.0 feels much better for some reason.
I'd recommend the Pro 5.0.
I'd recommend the Pro 5.0.
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the B&M feels kinda notchy while th Pro 5.0 feels smoother and accurate.
that said, i like the notchy B&M feel, and they're both so accurate that you're not going to miss a shift
so really its a personal thing. my friend on here steve has a B&M ripper and if i ever put a T5 in a car, id love to have it feel like his.
the same thing applys to T56 shifters.. the pro 5.0 is smooth and accurate.. where you place it is where it goes.. the B&M is notchy-er... but i kinda like that.
that said, i like the notchy B&M feel, and they're both so accurate that you're not going to miss a shift
so really its a personal thing. my friend on here steve has a B&M ripper and if i ever put a T5 in a car, id love to have it feel like his.
the same thing applys to T56 shifters.. the pro 5.0 is smooth and accurate.. where you place it is where it goes.. the B&M is notchy-er... but i kinda like that.
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I know im bringing this back from the dead. But i have been checking out different shifters. first i tried the pro 5.0 it was shorter throw than stock but had no stiffness to it was soft shifting. Tried the hurst it gave little bit more feedback and felt firmer. But now i got the ripper shifter and it gives a all new meaning to banging gears it is tight and u can feel every little notch in the tranny. I think it all depends on what u like. Personally i am very happy that i can bang the gears and feel every gear. But i did notice if u try to lazy shift its easier to miss a gear since it is so notchy. They all have there good qualities just depends on what u like. Oh and i can say the B&M takes a little getting used to over the stock 20 year old piece.
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About shifters...
I bought a 5.0 one... Feels great, but there is no rubber boot for it (I think the Hurst comes with one)... that would of been nice...
Also, yes the 5.0 comes with adjustable stops... But I thought I read somewhere that the T5 has internal stops...? (the stock stick doesn't have stops?) Note to my friend who constantly beaks starter cords on mowers / blowers - It's not a matter of pulling the stick back with so much power that you bend it over the transmission, just be quick and smooth.
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I bought a 5.0 one... Feels great, but there is no rubber boot for it (I think the Hurst comes with one)... that would of been nice...
Also, yes the 5.0 comes with adjustable stops... But I thought I read somewhere that the T5 has internal stops...? (the stock stick doesn't have stops?) Note to my friend who constantly beaks starter cords on mowers / blowers - It's not a matter of pulling the stick back with so much power that you bend it over the transmission, just be quick and smooth.
You know who you are!!

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The car I bought came with a B&M, and its certainly much better than stock. However, I test drove the pro 5.0 and i think it blows the B&M away. the 2-3 shift on a pro 5.0 is a joke
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