6 Speed swap kit??
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6 Speed swap kit??
Does anyone make these?So I can have all I need for the swap.Any info is helpful.
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Make?
Ummmm... no.
Gather up the parts and package them all for you so you don't have to do any work at all?
Ummmm.... not really.
Provide the parts you need?
Yes; several people provide various of the parts and pieces that you might use. GM (get the transmission and bell housing and hydraulics out of a junker or at the dealer), Spohn (torque arm & crossmember), any LT1 clutch, there are several schemes for dealing with the speedo depending on what car you've got.... lots of us here can help YOU figure out what would work the best in YOUR car.
This is hot-rodding. This isn't putting stickers on windshields. You're supposed to do a bit of the work yourslef, and choose from among the various options that are available, the one that fits you best.
Nobody's just going to hand you a "conversion kit" of some kind, that will just be a direct replacement in the most perfect sense, for YOUR car; because there's WAY too much variation in what people want, even MORE variation in what they're willing to pay for (hence the number of "where can I get {fill in the single-supplier item here} from the cheapest?" posts you see on here), and since the biggest thing (the T-56 itself) is USED and comes from WRECKED CARS which aren't exactly something you can set up a regular supply of and just order at need, sometimes you have to wait around until just exactly the thing YOU want for YOUR car turns up.
Ummmm... no.
Gather up the parts and package them all for you so you don't have to do any work at all?
Ummmm.... not really.
Provide the parts you need?
Yes; several people provide various of the parts and pieces that you might use. GM (get the transmission and bell housing and hydraulics out of a junker or at the dealer), Spohn (torque arm & crossmember), any LT1 clutch, there are several schemes for dealing with the speedo depending on what car you've got.... lots of us here can help YOU figure out what would work the best in YOUR car.
This is hot-rodding. This isn't putting stickers on windshields. You're supposed to do a bit of the work yourslef, and choose from among the various options that are available, the one that fits you best.
Nobody's just going to hand you a "conversion kit" of some kind, that will just be a direct replacement in the most perfect sense, for YOUR car; because there's WAY too much variation in what people want, even MORE variation in what they're willing to pay for (hence the number of "where can I get {fill in the single-supplier item here} from the cheapest?" posts you see on here), and since the biggest thing (the T-56 itself) is USED and comes from WRECKED CARS which aren't exactly something you can set up a regular supply of and just order at need, sometimes you have to wait around until just exactly the thing YOU want for YOUR car turns up.
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Engine: 350,307,2.5,900cc,5.0
Transmission: 700r4,4spd auto,700r4,4L80
Axle/Gears: 323,?,323,?,373
First off thanks for your reply,When I asked if anyone made a swap kit.I was
talking about any parts that you need that you don't get off the donor car
like cross member and torqoe arm.What I don't need is some smarta*s reply
because you want to be an a*shole.You should keep them to yourself next
time.I asked for info if I wanted to here some A*shole I would've E-Mailed
the Mustang Board.Next time if you you want to be helpful do that but keep your tude to yourself or let some one else reply.
Thanks
Lanaue
talking about any parts that you need that you don't get off the donor car
like cross member and torqoe arm.What I don't need is some smarta*s reply
because you want to be an a*shole.You should keep them to yourself next
time.I asked for info if I wanted to here some A*shole I would've E-Mailed
the Mustang Board.Next time if you you want to be helpful do that but keep your tude to yourself or let some one else reply.
Thanks
Lanaue
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OK, whatever. 
I could have told you every single part I used, having just recently completed the swap myself; cable speedo setup and all. Works so perfect you can hardly tell it didn't come there. All you would have had to so is realize why the question you asked, wasn't the right one; instead of coming across with some kind of "you owe it to me so you better deliver" attitude. But, I don't really have to, so I guess I just won't.
You're on your own now as far as I'm concerned. Good luck!!! It's not hard or anything.

I could have told you every single part I used, having just recently completed the swap myself; cable speedo setup and all. Works so perfect you can hardly tell it didn't come there. All you would have had to so is realize why the question you asked, wasn't the right one; instead of coming across with some kind of "you owe it to me so you better deliver" attitude. But, I don't really have to, so I guess I just won't.
You're on your own now as far as I'm concerned. Good luck!!! It's not hard or anything.
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[QUOTE=Z03Z28
Thanks
Lanaue[/QUOTE]
"Thanks" after that tirade?
Ease up.
JamesC
Thanks
Lanaue[/QUOTE]
"Thanks" after that tirade?
Ease up.JamesC
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Car: 92Z28,98LegacyGT,ZX9R,91 Z28,02 Z71
Engine: 350,307,2.5,900cc,5.0
Transmission: 700r4,4spd auto,700r4,4L80
Axle/Gears: 323,?,323,?,373
Look,it was a simple question.The answer was in no way owed to me.(any info HELPFUL).I thought we were here to help each other not give some arrogant attitude when some one needs a question answered.If I can get a quick answer why not.If your going to answer a post do it but it's no need to give somebody
a hard way to go when there asking for help.
P.S. I said thanks because he did reply. Thanks
Lanaue
a hard way to go when there asking for help.
P.S. I said thanks because he did reply. Thanks
Lanaue
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OK then, the "simple" answer to the question you asked is:
Nobody.
There you go, totally attitude-free; just the facts.
Now, ask the question you REALLY want answered, whatever that might be; and maybe someone (besides me) will give you an answer that is more useful than that bit of truth.
Nobody.
There you go, totally attitude-free; just the facts.

Now, ask the question you REALLY want answered, whatever that might be; and maybe someone (besides me) will give you an answer that is more useful than that bit of truth.
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I skipped the barrage of hate after I read the first two posts so pardon me if I missed anything.
You will need the basics: trans, pedals, clutch, 153 tooth flywhee, and hydraulics. These are all pretty self explanatory. Pedals are the only tricky one but if you make a post in parts wanted you will be able to find a set. Grab 4th gen pedals. You will need to cut the gas pedal off them but I believe they allow for a little bit more clutch pedal travel. I just installed them. It was a pain but not the end of the world.
Other things you need:
Torque arm: Spohn and a few others make them. I don't know who the others are so I won't list them
You can also make one yourself if you're good with a welder or pay a custom shop to make one for you.
Crossmember" Spohn and again I'm sure a few others make them. I guess you could make this yourself too or pay someone to make one custom but I wouldn't trust it as much.
(note: Spohn has a torque arm/crossmember combo. That's what I ended up buying.
bolts: This is something I wasn't aware of orginally. You will need pressure plate bolts for the clutch as well as the bolts for the flywheel. These are available from your local GM dealer for OEM stuff or Summit/whomever for aftermarket. I got bolts for a LT1, they're the same as L98 but the L98 never came in manual in our application (did it in vettes/something else, I don't even know?) so I didn't know what to look up.
pigtails: You will need at least 2 pigtails: one for the VSS (vehicle speed sensor) and one for the reverse lights. You can get them from your GM dealer. They're the same from 93-02. I just used an 02 ss with a 6 speed because the parts guy always gets annoyed when I have him look up older cars. Little does he know they're the same
reverse lockout: There's a solenoid next to the shifter. It serves the purpose of making sure people don't shift into reverse accidentally instead of 5th when going at any kind of decent speed. You have three choices: buy the pigtail for this too for 3 total pigtails and wire it up somehow (switch, brake pedal for the brake lights, etc). Second is to physically remove the solenoid. It's not that hard, one 13mm bolt and it pops out. A freeze plug for a GM 350 will fit it. Third is to just leave it in/ignore it and force the trans into reverse anyway.
a bit more on transmissions: The Borg Warner (aka stock 93-97) will work with the stock drive shaft. Aftermarket (Tremec) are longer and will require a different crossmember, torque arm, and driveshaft. LS1 transmissions (98-02 made by Tremec) won’t work without major modification (input shaft and housing at the very least). 93 transmissions were available with 3 different torque ratings (350, 400, 450) depending on 1st gear and 94-97 transmissions were all 450 with the same gear ratios. The 93 transmissions can be rebuilt (new gears) to have the same torque capacities as the later transmissions so don't pass one up if you find a good deal.
Also, go new whenever possible. I would never buy a clutch used and I would only buy a used flywheel if there's enough left to get it resurfaced. Transmissions are worse. I would want to drive it before I bought it. For this reason I ended up buying new everything minus the flywheel, which I had resurfaced for $45.
You will need the basics: trans, pedals, clutch, 153 tooth flywhee, and hydraulics. These are all pretty self explanatory. Pedals are the only tricky one but if you make a post in parts wanted you will be able to find a set. Grab 4th gen pedals. You will need to cut the gas pedal off them but I believe they allow for a little bit more clutch pedal travel. I just installed them. It was a pain but not the end of the world.
Other things you need:
Torque arm: Spohn and a few others make them. I don't know who the others are so I won't list them
You can also make one yourself if you're good with a welder or pay a custom shop to make one for you.Crossmember" Spohn and again I'm sure a few others make them. I guess you could make this yourself too or pay someone to make one custom but I wouldn't trust it as much.
(note: Spohn has a torque arm/crossmember combo. That's what I ended up buying.
bolts: This is something I wasn't aware of orginally. You will need pressure plate bolts for the clutch as well as the bolts for the flywheel. These are available from your local GM dealer for OEM stuff or Summit/whomever for aftermarket. I got bolts for a LT1, they're the same as L98 but the L98 never came in manual in our application (did it in vettes/something else, I don't even know?) so I didn't know what to look up.
pigtails: You will need at least 2 pigtails: one for the VSS (vehicle speed sensor) and one for the reverse lights. You can get them from your GM dealer. They're the same from 93-02. I just used an 02 ss with a 6 speed because the parts guy always gets annoyed when I have him look up older cars. Little does he know they're the same

reverse lockout: There's a solenoid next to the shifter. It serves the purpose of making sure people don't shift into reverse accidentally instead of 5th when going at any kind of decent speed. You have three choices: buy the pigtail for this too for 3 total pigtails and wire it up somehow (switch, brake pedal for the brake lights, etc). Second is to physically remove the solenoid. It's not that hard, one 13mm bolt and it pops out. A freeze plug for a GM 350 will fit it. Third is to just leave it in/ignore it and force the trans into reverse anyway.
a bit more on transmissions: The Borg Warner (aka stock 93-97) will work with the stock drive shaft. Aftermarket (Tremec) are longer and will require a different crossmember, torque arm, and driveshaft. LS1 transmissions (98-02 made by Tremec) won’t work without major modification (input shaft and housing at the very least). 93 transmissions were available with 3 different torque ratings (350, 400, 450) depending on 1st gear and 94-97 transmissions were all 450 with the same gear ratios. The 93 transmissions can be rebuilt (new gears) to have the same torque capacities as the later transmissions so don't pass one up if you find a good deal.
Also, go new whenever possible. I would never buy a clutch used and I would only buy a used flywheel if there's enough left to get it resurfaced. Transmissions are worse. I would want to drive it before I bought it. For this reason I ended up buying new everything minus the flywheel, which I had resurfaced for $45.
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Car: 92Z28,98LegacyGT,ZX9R,91 Z28,02 Z71
Engine: 350,307,2.5,900cc,5.0
Transmission: 700r4,4spd auto,700r4,4L80
Axle/Gears: 323,?,323,?,373
Thanks Gummie & Obey.Your still an A*shole sofa
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